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All Forum Posts by: Dan Cahill

Dan Cahill has started 10 posts and replied 47 times.

Quote from @John McKee:

Seems like your typical NNN lease deal. What is the access like? What is the traffic count? Is there an anchor nearby like a grocery store. Is the area growing? Is their competition nearby. Are there clauses in the lease that prevent competition from coming into the center if run by an association. What is unique about this property that makes it attractive. The biggest questions is if the tenant exits their lease, how easy is it to rent that space.


 Thanks.  Working on getting some more intel from the broker.  it's less than 2 miles from HD/grocery/etc.  Population has grown quite a bit in this town, and looks like continued aggressive construction for homes in the area based on a few articles I was able to find.  From looking on a map, didn't see any pet boarding facilities right nearby, and they have a great reputation for the area they serve.  

Quote from @Michael K Gallagher:

Hey Dan, seems like a somewhat solid deal from what you've posted.  My other questions would be, does the space have any limitations on it?  would it make it difficult to place a different retailer in there?  are there any encumbrances on the property that would prevent certain tenants from leasing there? Basically just curious what the exit or pivot plan would be if the pet store goes out of business tomorrow?


 Good question on zoning/limitation, I will raise this question.  I am curious about exit options if need to re-tenant, since I believe the building has a lot of separate rooms for the dog/cat kennels, and thus would likely require a substantial reno if a new tenant were to come in (unless it was another dog/cat boarder).

Quote from @Brandon Plombon:
Quote from @Dan Cahill:

I see a lot of healthcare properties (dentists, eye dr., etc.) listed by Matthews.  As an example is one below, been sitting on the market for 167 days.  Located off the beaten path in MI, so not a hot location.  But 3% annual rent increases, 10 years left on lease term, solid tenant, cap rate 6.75%.  This is just one example of a number of stale medical properties listed.  Other than mediocre location, what am I missing?

Also, any overall thoughts on the medical property space, which interests me because people need healthcare in person regardless of economy, so more recession-resistant I would think.  

https://www.matthews.com/prope...


 Mediocre location says it all


 yes, that's why i wasn't very excited despite the otherwise attractive deal features

Quote from @William Yeh:

I've brokered medical offices and been on the investment side. Aside from just looking at the asset itself, dig into the local competitive market for that particular type of asset.

What are comp rents going for? How long have competitive units been on market? Does the subject property have any competitive advantages? What's the quality of the subject property vs. the comp set? Have in place rents escalated past fair market? How much deferred maintenance is there? How dated are the suites? How much will it take to renovate the units/common areas if needed? Are any of the tenants close to retirement with old suites that require a ton of TIs and lease up costs to turn over?

The better you understand both how the subject property operates as well as how it fits into the local market, the more precise your underwrite will be and the less likely you'll be to have a nasty surprise.

Also consider where interest rates are heading and what market caps are doing. Cap rates have not meaningfully decompressed to take into account higher borrowing costs. The catch up we believe will happen but won't be immediate until interest rates cool off demand.


 Thanks much for the feedback, this is very helpful for looking at deals in general.  It turns out this one is off-market at this point, but good to keep in mind for others.  

thoughts on a potential (currently unlisted deal)

Price $800,000

Location: Warner Robins, GA

Cap rate 5.75%

15 yr. abs. NNN

2.5% annual rent increases

corp. backing

Petcare biz w/long-term history and well-reviewed

15 yr. old building

Quote from @Darren Flater:

Dan I am interested in this as well. Looks to me like a lot of these types of properties dont have a hot demand based on price and return. I think these would be good properties to add to a growing portfolio to add diversity. Commercial properties can sit for longer periods just because there are not as many people pursuing them. Definitely do some more digging but this could be a good opportunity to pick up a nice stable property.  


 Great, thanks for the validation!

I see a lot of healthcare properties (dentists, eye dr., etc.) listed by Matthews.  As an example is one below, been sitting on the market for 167 days.  Located off the beaten path in MI, so not a hot location.  But 3% annual rent increases, 10 years left on lease term, solid tenant, cap rate 6.75%.  This is just one example of a number of stale medical properties listed.  Other than mediocre location, what am I missing?

Also, any overall thoughts on the medical property space, which interests me because people need healthcare in person regardless of economy, so more recession-resistant I would think.  

https://www.matthews.com/prope...

Quote from @Ronald Rohde:
Quote from @Dan Cahill:
Quote from @Ronald Rohde:

I'd pass. write up your offer, submit and move on if you want to try and lowball.

What the seller bought for is irrelevant for your value. It may be worth $700k to someone else, why does he care what seller paid?

 Thanks. Of course I understand that any property is only worth what someone is willing to pay at the moment. Just pointing it out to show how much the property value has gone up in such a short time, assuming it sells near 800 K. To me that MAY signal a frothy market that is due for a correction.


 Even if it trades at $800k, I wouldn't worry about a frothy market. I was watching multi family prices in 2017 go up. I didn't buy back then because I thought it was frothy. Each successive cap rate and trade has the buyers laughing all the way to the bank!


 Thanks for the perspective.  I like the property but it's under contract at the moment, so I'm keeping my eyes open on others.

Quote from @Joel Owens:

Correction? 2 million dollar NNN is like a 200k house. Huge buyer pools and most pay all cash. Properties can get 12 offers within 48hrs.


Good perspective, thanks.  Still, value has gone up 68% in 3.5 years (assuming they get full asking price) based on what it sold for in 2018, without major improvements made it appears.  

Quote from @John McKee:

I like this deal at a 5.5 cap.  Some of the bigger players can buy better assets at 4.75% valuation so they could pass on this one.  I would make an offer, just make sure you put enough cash down to make it cash flow as interest rates are going up!!  My portfolio is full of these kinds of deals, but that's just because I'm conservative and patient.  


 Thanks!  It's under contract but if it falls through perhaps I'll have a chance to submit an offer.