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It's not. The "Shareholder Federal Reserve" is a lie; I think originating, at least in modern thought, from that trite book, Creature From Jekyl Island.
Are you kidding me..... There's always gotta be one.......
FYI, I had a business partner who was part of an ownership group in banking. My wife is a CFO in financing, of a private bank. I know a thing or 2 on this topic. Feel free to believe the FED is an altruistic entity existing to serve you, a fantastic service of the friendly and helpful Federal Government. (Oh so much sarcasm) Ya know, those same awesome freedom loving public servants at the Federal Government who brought you smashing hit's like "30T national debt", or "don't worry about your social security retirement because it's gonna be bankrupt".
And it's JekylL island, THE Creature from JekylL Island. Not sure what's contrite about the formation of the Fed, for example in secret by persons only utilizing code names, which is all historical fact. But hey, I am sure they did it so we wouldn't build monuments to there greatness, there just "from the government, and here to help you".......
It's not though. You don't have to get all angry just because you were wrong. And you certainly don't have to nitpick spelling mistakes because you were wrong. And as long as we're doing that kind of thing to each other; "two", "hits", "their", and "they're", along with a few other grammatical corrections.
The fact is that the Federal Reserve is not a private bank. And the entire conspiracy theory that states that it operates wholly in the interest of the GSIB's is just wrong on its face. And it's a myth that's propagated by people who have no understanding of how it even functions, what it specifically does in order to try to implement its policy. Two books I would recommend to you are Fed Up by Danielle DiMartino Booth (who is a household name for anyone who follows finance at an intermediate level, and The Lords of Finance by Liaquat Ahamed, which has a lot of language that's inaccessible to the more lay people, but still includes good central banking history.
But you'll definitely want to stop getting your finance/economics news from the "bro investor financial advisors". They almost never have any sort of certification. And even the ones who do are usually people who know strikingly little about economics/banking. They're specialization is in personal finance. And usually bad personal finance at that.
The fact is that the Fed is not some sort of evil institution. But worry not. You can still be critical of it. The truth about the Fed is that it's incompetent and actually has very little real impact on the money supply or interest rates. They aren't a technocratic institution. What they do is PR. They have the Volcker legacy and the Greenspan legacy, which are characterized by strength and savvy respectively. And they use those to try to effect the policy results they want. But they've even admitted in quiet ways over the last half century or so, that they don't actually know what money is, and even that they are ill-equipped to handle monetary policy effectively.
Seriously, discard everything you learned from TCFJI.
Do I gotta put you back on block and ignore for trolling Dan? I thought you learned from last time.
I have no clue what your rambling about, "bro investor financial advisors", wtf even is this trash? Look, kid, I don't know what your deal is but please grow up. You go on and pander your BS on how fantastically altruistic the Fed and Fed Gov are, leave the adults alone ok. Someday your gonna grow up, and realize what an azz you made of yourself back when. As far as my Edu on the Fed, I got half from university when studying for MBA, that was just before I got bored with the social engineering BS of it all, and I switched too Engineering with a minor in Econ.. The other half was from a mentor, who was a Pres at the U.S. Mint. I will stick to real world, you have fun with those books.
Oh, I did have to show you what was what a couple years ago. I'd thought that was the case.
If you had a formal education on the Federal Reserve, why did you think it was a private bank? Why are you seemingly informed by a book that has been entirely dismissed as bunk?
If you want to have nuanced discussion with myself (or evidently, anybody else here). I welcome you to act like the adult you're so proud you think you are. You could learn a thing or two from me.
I got an idea, how about stop lying Dan, how about starting there.
And before, you were all gung-ho on BP, wildly arrogant in your ignorance, just like now, telling how 100% for sure housing was going to collapse because of covid and the moratoriums, how it was all gonna come tumbling down.... Remind me, how'd that work out?
Then as well you kept twisting things, going on and on how right you are, 100% right 100% of the time because you "Dan".
I shared "A" book, a good one for the uniformed to get a good baseline 411 on the Fed. As for the Fed being private, well that's only according to the Fed itself so, without doubt your right, because your "Dan", so someone better get that memo to them lickety-split.
In FULL accuracy, the Fed operates neither as a governmental branch nor a private entity, they are something unique unto itself. We could get deep into the compilation mix of public and private operational factors of the Fed, only take 20/30hrs or so. In simplest terms, it is a private bank, that most correctly conveys what and how they "are" to the average person VS the name, Federal Reserve, which conveys a very incorrect image that many assume. Most assume it is a governmental branch like the FBI, they are far from such a structure of operation.
The Fed operates at it's own direction with influence from the Executive branch and Congress. Keyword "influence". There is numerous cases where the Fed has acted with impunity, completely disregarding congress.
The Fed almost never act's with the best of the "average" citizen at focus, all one has to do is look at their track record for such. The Fed has it's own agenda, there actions speak to this. Repeatedly.
If Fed was "for the people" where was rate increase in 2020? 2021? When markets were white-hot, where was rate increase to cool to a stabilized level? Where was the Fed in explaining what kicking out trillions into the system would do?