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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 7 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: Negotiating on a steal

Account ClosedPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

@Charlie MacPherson Thank you for the advice. Seller called me back and we worked out a price, she was much calmer this time

Post: Negotiating a steal

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

@Brian Pulaski ARV was 150k. Rehab was 30k, I offered 64k

Post: Negotiating a steal

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

@Tom Gimer I did estimate the repairs I just like to have a cushion and prepare myself for the worst. Not a big fan of surprises

Post: Negotiating a steal

Account ClosedPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

Is it wrong to keep negotiating even on a steal? It’s a business, and I was always taught to make an offer so low that it shocks me. Recently I was negotiating and the seller was offended. The original number worked in terms of good profit but I kept pushing. I don’t want to lose it all being too greedy. I know my end buyers will negotiate with me as well even if it is a steal. So I was tryna create something for me to fall back on. Something like a cushion just Incase repairs were higher than expected or any surprises. I like to throw numbers that prepare me for the worst. The lady felt offended, I’m new to the business and don’t want to leave a bitter taste with customers. Any advice or tips?

Post: Negotiating on steal

Account ClosedPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

Is it wrong to keep negotiating even on a steal? It’s a business, and I was always taught to make an offer so low that it shocks me. Recently I was negotiating and the seller was offended. The original number worked in terms of good profit but I kept pushing. I don’t want to lose it all being too greedy. I know my end buyers will negotiate with me as well even if it is a steal. So I was tryna create something for me to fall back on. Something like a cushion just Incase repairs were higher than expected or any surprises. I like to throw numbers that prepare me for the worst. The lady felt offended, I’m new to the business and don’t want to leave a bitter taste with customers. Any advice guys?

Post: Negotiating on a steal

Account ClosedPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

Is it wrong to keep negotiating even on a steal? It’s a business, and I was always taught to make an offer so low that it shocks me. Recently I was negotiating and the seller was offended. The original number worked in terms of good profit but I kept pushing. I don’t want to lose it all being too greedy. I know my end buyers will negotiate with me as well even if it is a steal. So I was tryna create something for me to fall back on. Something like a cushion just Incase repairs were higher than expected or any surprises. I like to throw numbers that prepare me for the worst. The lady felt offended, I’m new to the business and don’t want to leave a bitter taste with customers. Any advice guys?

Post: Estimated value of house

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

@Charlie MacPherson I took action right away to look for more comps. Zillow, Redfin, trulia, realtor.com, remax and all websites I tried could not find a single similar home. Trulia found one which was a home with 1 bedroom and 2 bath with 656sqft. I believe like I said because the house is one of a kind in it’s area it was complicated.

I took your advice and searched for further comps, time wise. The most recent I found was the one I said in February with 3 beds, 3 bath and 2166sqft. I was able to get lucky with Eppraisal, I found 3 homes that were actually sold that were a spitting image of my house but their dates range from June to September of 2017. They were also the most recent.All three of the houses were very very close to my house with no amenities and adjusted the price with the 8% like you said and got 391k, which kinda matches the owner story for it going for 400k. I am worried about the time but it’s all that could’ be pulled up

Post: Estimated value of house

Account ClosedPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

@Charlie MacPherson My comps were as far as 3 miles but most were a mile away. I only mention 5 to indicate sometimes I have to push out cause there were not any homes very much similar to my house. The comps I had were as close as I could get to my original house but they barely even reached 2000 sqft while my house was almost 3000 sqft with 2700 sqft. I tend to stay within 6 months but because of this issue I had to use a comp that sold in February for 320k which had 3 beds 2.5 baths and 2,166 sqft and was 3 miles away. There are houses listed on the mls which are actually very similar to my house ranging from 420,000-565k with no amenities but I always thought listed for sale is very different from what it is actually sold for. I thought it meant nothing

Post: Wholesale Deal. Need Advice and Tips

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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

@Denzel Segrest The standard purchase and sale agreement for wholesalers is on youtube. Watch a bunch of videos and see if yours matches up, usually you can add a couple more policies to it if you want or leave it blank

For the second contract, from connecting with other wholesalers in your area see if your state uses more of double closing or assignment. If they use assignment there is one on YouTube as well, even shows you how to fill out both these contracts from your side. If it’s double close, all you need is 2 contracts of the standard purchase and sale agreement. It’s all on YouTube, I recommend you search up the flip man on YouTube who is a famous wholesaler in Alabama and watch all his videos as you go along on your journey especially the one about contracts

Post: Wholesale Deal. Need Advice and Tips

Account ClosedPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Worcester, MA
  • Posts 42
  • Votes 4

@Denzel Segrest I would say to use certain websites as tools to help you know how many bathrooms and bedrooms there are. Sites like Zillow, redfin, your local mls website, trulia, realtor.com or any other home websites. I have been in a situation like this before I mostly lean to what I see is more consistent out of these 5 websites or more then ask why they are selling the property. This question is a good indicator to see if they are a motivated seller cause most motivated sellers don’t lie. They want you to buy their property and know that you will probably view it before you do. No one wants to get caught lying like that if they are motivated.

Then, actually visit the home based on how motivated they are and see for yourself. With repairs most motivated sellers tell the truth about this cause like I said they know you will view the home and do your own due diligence. I usually ask where they got this information from about how much their repairs cost. Most of these motivated sellers barely know a lot about their homes. Most deal with contractors that will try and take advantage of them so the number is usually exaggerated. Some of them could also be lying and under cutting the repair costs to get you to sell it, in that case I take a video of the whole house and pics. I can usually come to a number with a range of a 5k difference based on how old the house is and what it needs for repairs. A lot of people have numbers different on repairs because everybody’s contractor is different. Different morals or different costs, then after this estimate in my head I send out the pics and videos to my end buyers about a potential deal. They usually have contractors or a well experienced with rehab costs, they can tell what it is. If they are showing a lot of interest your number was not far of, remember a good deal always sells. If you want you could also connect with other wholesalers in your area and ask them what contractors they use and how they go about some things.

I also saw someone comment and tell you wholesaling is illegal first of all don’t let that discourage you. I bet you there are wholesalers in your area, which work with title companies that is run by your state or county which deals go through. Every state just has its own policies on wholesaling when it comes to closing, for example my state in MA does not work with assignment contracts so I do double close. I noticed it was a broker who commented that negative comment, real estate agents and brokers live in a different world from us wholesalers, don’t sweat it. And to contact wholesalers in your area, simply go on Craig’s list and search up real estate for sale by owner in your area, then search up keywords like handyman, investors, distressed home, motivated seller, fix and flip. These are posts by wholesalers in your area looking for cash buyers, email them with the link on Craig’s list saying you are an investor and wholesaler and would like to stay in touch for potential jv deals or to connect then with other cash buyers. This is how I found my first title company when I was told by other title places that they have never heard of wholesaling or they only work with agents.