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All Forum Posts by: Dan Kim

Dan Kim has started 18 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Finding private money

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Hello BP community,

So I’ve lined up a great agent, contractor, and hard money lender. I’m having trouble finding private money lending specifically for that 20% down on the hard money loan. 
If my goal is OPM, just wondering if anyone has recommendations on how they found their private lenders. Thanks!

Post: Flips for a beginner

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I am very surprised at how much hard money eats up hard earned profit. Great for instant capital up front, but can’t seem to justify all the fees and interest. 
Any advice on how one can look for private money? It seems it’s mostly via ones network, family and friends.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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@Alan F. Thanks for the encouragement and info. As I am reviewing hard money loans, I see in their breakdown a fee for builder’s insurance. I’ve heard stories so I’m glad this can help protect investors.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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Quote from @Konstantin Ginzburg:

@Dan Kim

It will likely depend on the individual finance packages you are being offered by each source and the requirements you will need to meet after closing on the deal. For example, an FHA or other similar primary residency loan will likely require you to live in the property for a year. If your goal is a fix and flip, then this will be a large increase to your holding costs. If you are not getting a primary residence loan, then seasoning period will need to be considered for your lender. If the lender requires a longer seasoning period, this will have the same affect of increasing your holding costs. On the flip side, a hard money lender may charge higher interest which is an added expense that will need to be over come with that route. If you are able to renovate and sell the property quickly, then you can mitigate the affects of higher interest rates on a hard money lender. Sort out the different financing options you have and figure out which one is best for your individual property acquisition.

 @Konstantin Ginzburg I'm seeing there are so many lending options/packages out there. It can be overwhelming going through each one, but fun to figure out what will work best for what I'm trying to do. I appreciate this.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Dan Kim

yep, that's the challenge in finding something off market: doing it yourself vs. trusting someone else's deal. are you going to REIA meetings? they are a good place to meet other investors.

yes on costs: purchase costs = closing costs on the buy; holding costs = utilities, insurance, finance / interest costs; sale costs = commissions, further repairs, closing costs again, taxes.  costs at every step.

@Nicholas L. I appreciate this information, both for reinforcing what I've learned thus far, and also adding new info. Very exciting.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Dan Kim

sure:

-you'll probably have to buy something off market - are you looking off market, or just on?

-run your comps conservatively

-make sure you have factored in purchase, hold, and sales costs

-good job talking to contractors, are you in a position to be able to get a couple of bids if you get something under contract?

@Nicholas L.

as I'm just getting started, the first 3 properties I've seen so far are listed ones. When doing my "studying" up 'til now, I was set on finding things off market, but realizing my strengths aren't in the door to door, cold calling. And I keep hearing not so good things dealing with wholesalers. But, I'm willing to try and learn at this point.

I did learn to run comps conservatively, thanks for that. In terms of costs beyond purchase and renovations, its things like utilities, taxes, closing, time on the market?

I'm interested in one property now, but wanted to place a bid once I've spoken to a couple contractors. That's still in progress.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Dan Kim

"flipping to gain capital" is tough because it takes capital to flip.  do you have a plan to find a deal, get the rehab done and exit?  do you have funds for carrying costs?

 @Nicholas L. As of now, I have 2 agents I'm working with. I saw property today and have been speaking to hard money/private lenders, as well as talking to contractors, to prepare for when I'm ready to place an offer. I do have capital saved up in case a lender needs 20%, and settlement costs. I admit, it's nervous energy now, but it's education I need to finally apply (carefully). I'll take any advice.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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Quote from @Justin Hammerle:

@Dan Kim - hard money can be used for quick approvals and transactions, but understand you will be paying higher rates and points. This makes sense for most investors due to the short term nature of flips. If you are you using subsidized loans like FHA, rates and financing cost may overall be lower, but it will be a heavier admin burden prior to and after closing.

 @Justin Hammerle Great info, Justin. I appreciate it as I'm learning much from the replies here. Ideally, I'll be looking for private lenders but am speaking to hard money lenders specifically for the fix and flip. Eventually, I will network with other lenders when I'm ready to buy and hold.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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Quote from @Kyle Ebersole:

Congrats on getting into the fix & flip game! I would recommend going the route of private money for your flips. Less red tape and just an easier process throughout. You might have to network a decent bit to find a good hard money lender if this is your first deal, but it would be worth it in my opinion. Best of luck! 

 @Kyle Ebersole I truly appreciate your response. Just saw a property today I'm interested in and am looking for options with private/hard money. I'm already seeing that networking with good people is essential.

Post: Flips for a beginner

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@Noah Bacon thanks! I’ll check it out