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All Forum Posts by: David Roe

David Roe has started 29 posts and replied 107 times.

Post: Obsessing over a deal

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71
Joe, this is mostly true... WPCU does up to 100% loan to value in some HELOC loans and ReFi loans.  Since i am married i can do 10 in my name and 10 in the wife's name.  You can do them as a portfolio under a business and a few other options. 
HELOC season time is 30days for my bank.
Refi season time is only 90 days for my bank.

Hard money lenders that offer rental property loans are about 90 days to season, higher rates but still an option. 

I'm currently doing 3 BRRRR properties at once right now...

I agree you should have positive cash flow after all bills and 5% for maint and 5% for CAP and 10% management fees i still aim for $50-$100 cash flow long as i can turn $10k-$20 on the Refi cash out....

Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @David Roe:

@Dustin Reynolds

You should read/listen to richest man in Babylon. I would refinance the rental you currently have and go buy the duplex, fix it up, then refinance it. It's called the BRRRR lots of info on the website here.

Having a house that’s paid off is like have $100k under your mattress. It’s doing nothing for you. All that equity can be used to build more wealth

This is true...mostly. The troubles with the BRRRR method is:

1 - You're limited in the number of loans in total you can carry

2 - You're only getting 780-75% back based on the ARV, so if you spent more than that in cash, you're behind.

3 - You can only do one of these at a time, since you need the cash out of the previous property to use on the next one.

4 - Every time you repeat this (meaning refi), you have to pay for the money you are moving forward with.  This isn't the same money you entered the previous deal with...that's still in the house...it's just leveraged and collateralized, so you are really still just "buying" new cash.

5 - The process moves slowly.

6 - In the end, you still have to have positive cash flow...or there's no point.

To make the BRRRR method work, you really need to do a Cash Out REFI (taking out more than you put in), but you have to season each property at least 6 months (see #'s 3 & 5 above), and you're forced into finding great deals. If the property isn't CFP after you do a simple REFI, it sure wouldn't be if you did a COR.

Where the BRRRR method works best is when you pay all cash using flip profit to buy a rental. The REFI gets all of the cash back out in the form of a loan (not taxable income) that you can use any way you like. It's basically free money (as long as the rental in question here is cash flow positive).

Post: [Calc Review] Good deal in Dayton if anyone is looking

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

View report

*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Post: Obsessing over a deal

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

@Dustin Reynolds

You should read/listen to richest man in Babylon. I would refinance the rental you currently have and go buy the duplex, fix it up, then refinance it. It's called the BRRRR lots of info on the website here.

Having a house that’s paid off is like have $100k under your mattress. It’s doing nothing for you. All that equity can be used to build more wealth

Post: Capital Gains question; buying from yourself

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

Thank you for your responce, I figured as much, i find it a little funny you have to pay taxes on something you sold to yourself since our taxes are filled together.  I found a lender that will do a higher refi so its a dead issue now.  I just like to explore every option availible out there.  

Post: Access to New Funding

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

I just bought a place for $40,000 that needed nothing and a $30,000 property thats just needs fresh carpet.  Ohio is a great location for that range of capital.  

Post: Sub 2 Calculator needed

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

49k for a 65k property isn't a bad deal, do you have solid comps to show the 65k value?

Confirm it's a 30 year term loan and the intrest rate is fixed.

Selling the property lease option to buy would be a good deal, you just have to get the seler you're buying from to sign a lease option agreement that makes you the Prime and that keeps you leagal.  If you're keeping it make sure you put it in a Land Trust to fall under Garn-St. Germaine act of 1982 "Owner of record may transfer their intrest in their property from a given name to a trust (without) triggering the Due on Sale Clause in most mortgage contracts"  

Post: 2nd Position Mortgage Financing

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

$85,000 property for sale with great cash flow, I have $10,000 but it's not seasoned in the bank. Local bank will do 25% LTV making needed Seasoned cash at $21,250. What's the best way to leveage this process? Lets pretend i dont use any of my cash at all...

1) seller agrees to an opperating agreement/partnership where he carries the 21,250 to closing then once closed he gets the full purchase price of $85,000.  And i am left with a 63,750 Mortgage and then a partnership loan of 21,250.  I get the property with no money down and the seller gets 63,750 of the 85,000 then a owner finance type payment on the 21,250....   He will remain on the deed till the 21,250 is paid off then removed from deed on the property.  

2) ???  What are other ways to do this>? 

Post: First Purchase. Duplex

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

Match the neighborhood to your renovations, dont put 10k in a kitchen for a rental that only demands 575 a month. Repaint the cabnets and do countertop and hardware only. Same with the bathroom, keep them under 2k totals for the rehabs for that cheap of a rental. Flooring i would do LVT everywhere, they can buy rugs if they dont like it. Try and find another duplex of same bed,bath rentals in that same neighborhood thats for rent, act like your interested and go view them to see the updates they have at what cost of rent they are demanding. If you plan to live in one side do a construction loan on it. If its a pure investment think about mb doing a HELOC after the repairs instead of a refi, compair your local banks products to which one will give you more flexability, rates, and LTV.

Also speak to more than one contractor about the repairs and cost.  4 contractors all could range from 10k-50k for the same rehab....  PS pay the contractor in 2 payments on a anything under 2 months 3 payments on anything above 2 months, they will work faster to get to that next payment on long jobs.  and never pay the last payment untill 100% of all the work is accomplished... 100%

Post: Tax Delinquent Properties

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

Find out if the City allows negotiations on the Taxes another selling point if the City entertains offers on paying back taxes, the city wants to keep collecting their money if it gets tofar in the rear and becomes abondoned they make nothing...

Post: 1031 exchange when I want to buy new 10 weeks before selling?

David RoePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Dayton Ohio
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 71

Do a construction loan on the new purchase;

Under a construction-to-permanent loan, you borrow money to pay for the construction costs of building your home. Once the house is complete and you move in, the loan is converted into a permanent mortgage.

Because this format is basically a two-in-one loan, you have only one set of closing costs to pay, reducing the number of fees you owe.

During the construction of your house, you pay interest only on the outstanding balance; you don’t have to worry about paying down the principal yet. Typically, you’ll have a variable interest rate during the construction phase, so the rate and your payment can fluctuate.

Once it becomes a permanent mortgage — with a loan term of 15 to 30 years — then you’ll make payments that cover both interest and the principal. At that time, you can opt for a fixed-rate or variable-rate mortgage.

Also check with your bank, USAA allowed us to purchase our new home before selling the old property, i was not able to use the equity but they still alowed us to close.  If you have the cash in a 401k pull it out as a loan, purchase the new place then when your old home sells pay it back.

Hard money lender can also help, do a hard money loan to purchase and do a BRRRR but instead of renting you live in it.

Ask the seller if you can do a Owner Finace deal or Option2  etc.....   

MB keep your current home as a rental.... Why not?