Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Dawn Centanni

Dawn Centanni has started 1 posts and replied 5 times.

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Its stories like this that give landlords the bad rap and have people with pitchforks coming for us. You can try to make yourself feel as good about yourself as you like. But you know that two elderly women living on a fixed income can't afford much higher rent. You knew that when you bought the building and probably got a good deal on it as a result. Your entire plan for making a killing rests on evicting these women and raising the rent to market rates. You also know that they will be unable to find equivalent housing elsewhere at a similar price. Now none of this is technically your problem but you became responsible when you bought the place. Do whatever lets you sleep at night but I don't think you can come out smelling like roses if you make them leave.

How would any business survive with that mindset? Are you honestly claiming that anyone buying the property should have to honor the price offered 30 years ago until these ladies eventually pass away? If you bought bacon for $2.21 a pound in 1990, should the grocer be required to honor that price today just because you're 65 and on oxygen? No, bacon prices have gone up to $5.62 a pound and you can either accept that or stop eating bacon.

Do you think he's buying this property for the same price it sold for 30 years ago? Do you think taxes and insurance costs are the same as they were 30 years ago? What about the price of replacement appliances? Flooring? Paint? Doorknobs? Lawn care?

For whatever reason, the previous owner failed to raise rents to keep up with the increased cost of living. These women should be grateful for paying so little over the years. Now the rent is going to catch up with reality and they'll have to adjust, just like most renters have adjusted over the past 30 years. That's the fault of the renters and the market, not the young investor trying to make a better life for himself and his family.

@Nathan G. Are you suggesting that the older ladies are at fault for not being able to pay more and wanting to stay ?  You don't seem to be comparing apples to apples.   If apple prices go up then lower income people buy less apples...this is demonstrated in lower income areas where McDonalds are prevalent  They simply then do without the items that increased in price and replace with other less expensive options, typically lower quality.  When housing goes up it is not equivalent to say people who have made their home somewhere, that they should just relocate to somewhere they can now afford and it's their fault they haven't made more income to afford the inflated prices of higher demand. None of us would invest if we weren't in it to make profit to better our situation but it does not need to come at the cost of others in my opinion. There are other ways to fulfill both. It's not my life so I'm okay with either choice and understand that this is part of the game of capitalism. but for me I'd have a hard time living your truth. 

Hi Tyler,

I have given this much thought as I have found myself in a similar situation on a property I really love. (Mine...Duplex in a great airbnb community which could make a ton as a short term rental.)  I think you know what the right thing is and are trying to make a decision if it's okay to NOT do that right thing in the name of profit.  There are lots of people in the investing community who will say callous things like "this is just business" and that's fine for them I guess.  There are lots people who do well... but don't do right. Sorry but you will need to decide what kind of person you are on this one and no one person's opinion will be very helpful. They might offer excuses for you or they might add guilt depending which side they fall.  In my own situation I have thought about going the middle ground.  Accepting that the rent is way under market value, allowing the renters to stay and not doing the upgrades I want to do to get the apartments to market value and rented as airbnb.  I'm deciding to hold as long term rentals, long term if necessary.  I am able to do this as it is not my first investment property.   I have come to believe that how I treat people is important to my happiness more than making a few extra bucks.  Just my two cents for whatever they are worth!  

Dawn

Thanks Drew I’ll

check that out!

Thanks Mark...and so what do you use now?

Hi All!!  I am looking for some advice and recommendation on what all-in-one software I could use to track our investment properties.  We would ideally like it to do it all...organize contacts, appointment calendar, track individual rentals, spreadsheets for rehabs work and even invoicing. Should have ability to be mobile and accessible by multiple users.  Please let me know what you use and love!

Thanks!