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All Forum Posts by: Dusty Bowling

Dusty Bowling has started 7 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Capital Gains vs Primary Residence

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

2 years

Post: How I Screwed up a $65k Gross Margin Deal

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Thanks for sharing Tony. Grabbed a couple nuggets :)

Post: Rehab Business Planning For the Future!

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Hey Michael, great topic as I am right in the middle of where you are trying to get.

I currently work full time as a Deputy Sheriff and flip houses on the side as well as holding 20 doors for rentals. My plans are dead on with yours as I am contemplating retiring this year at 36 from the sheriff department and concentrate full time on real estate.

Question 1

Last year I did 13 flips while working full time, so is 12 possible I think so. I would caution that I have been doing this for 10 years and have developed good relations with local contractors who have been working with me for some time. I also started out doing the work myself so think I have a pretty good idea on the order and process of flipping from start to end. I would also say that my job was very compatible with flipping. I can usually answer calls from my contractors while working, able to stop by occasionally if problems came up. I would highly recommend J Scott's books as they were very informative. If you were not able to interact if needed during your normal job I would not recommend being a GC to one property let alone 3/4 at a time.

Question 2

What I did was found an elderly contractor who was very skilled in all aspect of construction. He was a local builder who was semi retired and I asked if he would like to over see some of the workers I had been using for the last 10 years and basically be a teacher and oversee the quality and timelines. I see it more as a working GC, he is able to do the highly skilled work and punch outs when we need and then oversee and teach my less skilled guys who will hopefully pick up some skill.

Question 3

I currently am able to find all of my deals with minimal advertising using only realtors, sheriff sales, Facebook, and word of mouth. I am from a small community of only 3,500 people and don't have much competition as I am the only flipper in the area that does more than one or two flips a year. With trying to go full time I am going to ramp up my marketing with direct mail, and every door direct us mail. I plan on sending out around 500 mailers every other month, and am going to do an every door direct mail campaign from the post office to just blast the entire market. I will say Facebook work tremendously in a small town. I get offers weekly for people trying to sell, people needing rentals, wanting to buy on contract ect.. Sheriff sales are also still a very good option in this area. There are usually 1 or 2 in the area monthly and often I am the only person that shows up to buy. If I transfer to full time I will definitely start looking in adjacent counties for the sheriff sales to see if the markets are strong and minimal investor participation.

Post: Anyone use a Home Depot or Lowes Commercial Credit Card

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Not promoting anyone, but I have been using ULOVE2SAVE.com for coupons. There lowes coupons come out every month and are costing  2.25, they are never out and ship to my house fairly quickly. Usually receive with in 3 days. They also have resteraunt coupons, taco bell, culvers, burger king, ect... they run like 2 dollars and let you purchase any value meal for free.

Post: Direct mail in a small town

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Hi everyone,  was wanting to get some advice on starting a marketing campaign in a small community. I'll give you a little background. I'm a deputy sheriff and have been flipping homes and collecting rentals for the past 10 years. I've developed a great reputation for the quality of flips we do as well as a long waiting list for potential rentals waiting for one to open or for us to buy rehab and hopefully turn into a rental instead of flipping. I've done around 25 flips over the past 5 years and currently have 20 rentals. There is currently no competition for house flippers in my immediate area. I live in a town of around 3000 and patrol a county of less 30,000 people. The prime area for flipping in my area is the town I live in which only has 3,000. We are in rural Indiana so also have country properties available outside of the towns. We can often rehab in less than 60 days on a gut job and have people waiting to buy as soon as we are finished. I would say our average days on market would be less than 30. Because of our reputation and face book friends alone we can often advertise a house available for rent or for sale and have 5-10 people respond that day.   

The only marketing we've done for our self is word of mouth, face book, and I did have my aunt look up at the county records a list of owners that owned properties but had a separate mailing address, an absentee owners list but the majority are still in this area. I think out of the 100 only 15 or so were even out of the county much less out of the state.  This list only came to just over 100. We sent out hand written letters and had a 20% response rate. Out of those 20 we did manage to buy 2 deals. Which I thought was a fantastic return. I've been looking into yellow letters and was wondering with such a small farm area would I be better off to use every door direct and just blast everyone or try to purchase a list. I think every door direct for the area that I would want to pursue is only 1360 addresses. I feel a list of absentees, divorce, landlords, ect would be so small. I also am concerned about resubmitting mailings every 6 weeks or so and wonder whether I would be over doing my welcome when they aren't any other investors doing any kind of mailing in our community. I see that sometimes investors change numbers or give different pieces of mail to make it look like it is from other investors, but I feel my main advantage in this market is the reputation and character I carry in the community. In my opinion I would want everyone to know it was me wanting to buy their house, they see the difference we've made, quality of work we do, and know if we say we are buying we will close.  I would want a brand or consistency with my marketing, bandit signs, yard signs, ect.

Last year we started to expand and did 8 flips and have put in place multiple crews, project managers, and systems to handle and hopefully do 15-20 this year.

 Sorry to ramble but I guess my question is how would you pursue a marketing strategy in a smaller community where you are your only completion. I do own properties on both major highways directly coming into town and am planning on smaller billboards in those locations. We do put up bandit signs with our company "Integrity Investments by Bowling" coming soon on all our rehabbed properties as well as a 6 foot vinyl sign that we place on the fronts of each house when we begin our rehabs. As always thanks for all comments and suggestions.                                                                                                                                                             

Looks great, congrats on your first!

Post: mold

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Mold sounds a lot scary than it really is in most cases. As long as you cover your bases and have a licensed company remove the cost is usually a lot cheaper than the discount given. I purchased a sheriff sale 1000sf had mold throughout the crawl space. The entire crawl had to be treated total cost was 2500 for a cleaning treatment, remove old vapor barriers, and install new. Purchased for 62,000 rehabbed total of 13,000 sold for 92,000. Not a home run, but ill take it .

Wow, what an awesome post!!! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for taking the time very much appreciated.

Post: Experienced flipper wants to know - GC or project manager.

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

I'm kinda in the same boat. What I'm going to try is to use one of my better all around subs jump his pay up from 20 to 25hr and have him project manage my usual subs. On a typical flip 30 days or so will cost an extra 1000 but no GC for me, would gladly give 10% of the profit to not have to babysit and use that time to find another deal or more private money.

Post: No Results on List Source

Dusty BowlingPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • covington, IN
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

I'm having the same problem myself. I tried the small city where I live Covington, IN and received no results. I believe like you the town isn't up with the times and doesn't have a strong online presence. We do have a tax assessor web site where we can pull up individual houses and owners but no way of trimming down with filters. I went to court house to ask if there was a way to filter and they told me, No. I also thought every door might be the way to go because mailing to the entire school zip code was less than 500 plus postcard.