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All Forum Posts by: Denis Ponder

Denis Ponder has started 22 posts and replied 274 times.

Post: Do You Manage Your Property or Hire a Manager?

Denis Ponder
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  • Yuma, AZ
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All of my long term rentals are managed by a company; I have one property in my hometown and 3 properties OOS.  It's six of one and half dozen of the other.  It all comes down to personal preference.  There are pro's and con's to each, so go with what you want.  Are you good at recognizing BS and calling people on it?  Are you good at holding the line and holding other adults accountable?  Are you able to hear someone's sob story and not have it impact your decision making for your business?  Do you love reading legalese and staying up on laws and changes to those laws?  If so, self managing might be a good fit for you.

I'm more of a "path of least resistance" person, so if I can pay someone else to do it, I usually will.  I would rather spend my time and energy on something else.

I got into this for FIRE; self managing properties doesn't align with my goals from real estate.

Post: Paying off my personal home mortgage or saving for an investment property?

Denis Ponder
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My thought is more about time in the market and getting the snowball started now vs. 10 years from now.  If it takes you 4 more years to pay off your mortgage, how long after that until you have enough funds to purchase a rental property?  During that time, property will have appreciated, as a general assumption, so it's going to be more expense to purchase an investment property and you have lost out on appreciation, and possibly cash flow.  That's how I look at this.  I plan to purchase as many properties as I can afford and sustain with minimal down payments for the first 10 years of this business.  At that point, I will start to make some judgements about growth vs. payoff vs refi, etc.

You could use the money to continue to accelerate the payoff of your primary then get a HELOC on the equity to fund the downpayment of a rental property if/when you find one.

For me though, I'm making minimal payments on the mortgage and getting the investment snowball rolling as soon as I can.

Post: Should I get a Property Manager?

Denis Ponder
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  • Yuma, AZ
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Another vote for hiring a PM, especially out of state.  I have a PM on all my properties; I don't really have the time or desire to self manage, at all.  I'm trying to offload responsibility, not bring in more.

Post: Interested in passive income

Denis Ponder
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I would grab a book or two from the store and give them a read.  You will learn basics, lingo, and get introduced to some different ideas.  Then you need to figure out what path you want to take and get hustling.  Work on analyzing some deals, get your finances in order, get pre-approved, find a deal, and buy it.  All when you are ready, of course.  But learn enough to get in the game, then make a play and learn from that as well.  Good luck!

Post: Personal Funds vs. HELOC to Fund a Property

Denis Ponder
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  • Yuma, AZ
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Quote from @Zach Bosson:

@Kyle Kline
Why not use the 15-20k in savings and lose out on the 5% interest instead of incurring 8%-13% on the HELOC?

In an emergency situation you could always access the HELOC at 8%-13%.

This emergency situation should be considered before the funds are accessed with either method, can you afford to have no savings AND be paying 8%-13%. Is the return on the use of the funds worth that risk? 

Questions to consider. But my rule of thumb is always use my cash before I pay interest knowing I can always draw later if I need to.


Agree here. Use the cash first so you aren't paying interest. Use the HELOC as the emergency fund. However, make sure you are building the cash reserve part back up as well.

Post: Offer on my first deal

Denis Ponder
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Yuma, AZ
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I don't know much about your market but I will assume there is above average appreciation based on those numbers.  At $360k, you are saying there is 10% appreciation; that's pretty substantial.  If you really like the unit and the area, then it's up to you.  If you are looking to build a long term portfolio, why not just go in with a downpayment and let the renters cover your expenses.  Math it out to find the minimum you need to put down for the rent to cover you.  Then sit tight for a bit, make sure it's rented and you have reserves, then repeat the process.  I suppose you can do delayed financing as well if you want to close all cash to make it a quicker transaction.  But, save as much of your cash as you can for reserves and another purchase down the road.

If that appreciation is regular/normal and not an anomaly, I see the appeal here.  I would still go in with as little cash as possible so I can purchase another property and multiply my returns with the same cash.  This approach will help you grow your portfolio more quickly, but it's all up to you.

Post: confused between selling or keeping as long term rental - Seattle home

Denis Ponder
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Quote from @Naresh Achary Vadla:

Hi, I am bit of confused between selling or keeping as long term rental regarding a property that I own in Seattle area. (Bothell WA).

I wonder any of your inputs might help to narrow down my options.

My property is already appreciated 100% purchanse price was 530K. I wonder should I keep it on rent 3500 per month on an average.

Property management fee : 300 

Maintenance issues: 600 a year on an average

Mortgage left: 350K 

If I decide to sell I might make 700-800K cash. And could save capital gain tax on first 500K profit . This clock is ticking Novermber is the last chance that I could save tax on capital gains

Any experts here, please share your thoughts on this situation.

Assuming you want to stay in the game, what are your long term goals?  Does this property help you meet those goals?  I don't know how long you lived there to accumulate the appreciation and equity, but it's probably located in a solid appreciation area.  Does the property currently cash flow well?

You can always refinance and get the equity out without paying taxes on the money if that's what you want.  It really depends on your long term goals.  Is this something you need/want for retirement?  Are you passing it along to heirs at some point?

Me personally, I'm hanging on to this and refinancing when the rates come down at some point.  Personal preference.

Post: How to do to first deal without using any personal cash?

Denis Ponder
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Yuma, AZ
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Quote from @Justin Showghi:

I’m finally ready to take the plunge into real estate investing, but with two kids, I’m nervous to use any of my own cash for the first project. Any tips on how to navigate this?

Do you currently own or rent? If you rent, start with buying a small MF and rent out the other units. You can move on from there and purchase a SFH if you don't like sharing a MF. This will require the least amount of capital for your to get in the game and get the best of both worlds.

Post: did you pick your market or did it pick you? All-arounder looking for a market

Denis Ponder
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  • Yuma, AZ
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Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @Josh Fugle:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

You aren't struggling because you can't find a market, you are struggling because you have shiny object syndrome, which you call being a generalist. If you are interested in "FH, small multi, apartments, industrial, car washes, laundry mats, storage" you aren't focused at all. You can't compare those properties so what you are doing is looking for a diamond in the rough without doing the due diligence. Your parameters on assets are way too wide.

Also, if live in Dayton, you live in a hot state for investing. Why are you looking for properties within a 30-minute radius of you? There are surely cash flow opportunities. Of your assets, which one do you you like the most? Which will you be proud to own? If you don't know, figure that out.


 I absolutely agree with you. I’m looking for home runs everywhere. Hence the post, I want to know what got others to their specialty to help me pick my focus point.

I think My end goal is to get to apartments but without exp and outside investors that isn’t feasible.  so how do I get there, small sfh and section8 till I can get to 5+ Multis, then 20+, then 100+? Is that path or is there a better way to get to my end goal simpler?   

I’m not looking for the get rich quick scheme, I’m looking for how to focus my time best. And why others did what they did.


If you like apartments for the future, you want to start smaller now. Look for 2, 3, and 4-units since they are all financed with residential financing and learn how to manage on a smaller scale before overcommitting on a large scale.

Home runs everywhere won't even equal singles anywhere. It's what leads to analysis paralysis. Ohio is great, don't go outside of Ohio. It's a landlord-friendly state.

Agree here.  Stop looking for homerun deals and look for base hits and doubles.  Occasionally, you will find a homerun in your search and that's icing on the cake.  Find a good solid deal where the numbers work and pull the trigger.  You will learn a lot in that process and be better prepared for round 2.

Post: GENERATIONAL WEALTH: Do you worry about your kids?

Denis Ponder
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Quote from @Jim K.:

As most of you know (because I obnoxiously mention it again and again here in the forums), I live in half a large duplex that I bought in unlivable condition for $45K cash for back in the beginning of 2017. I've spent years of my own spare time fixing it up, and Zillow now tells me the place is worth $191K. This duplex was initially custom-built for a local heiress, but by the time I ended up with it, it couldn't pass a housing inspection by a blind code official. It's still not ideal, but the upstairs is actually rather nice and rents for $950, and the downstairs, where we live, looks less and less like a construction zone weekly.

I'm bringing all this yet again because I want all of you to picture my wife and I in this duplex just talking around on our back porch last Sunday afternoon (I was priming a door). We were discussing our next acquisition, which we want to be a small multifamily somewhere in the $500-$750K range. Our plan now is to sell a single-family in our portfolio that I've never liked but is mostly paid off, and 1031 the money into the cash injection for a commercial loan by our regular banker. The sale of the single-family should easily cover what we'll need for the cash injection and about thirty thousand left over for a war chest to fix whatever comes up with the new acquisition.

We are confident in our plans and our skills and the rest of our team in this new endeavor, we have a good handle on what needs to be done, and really, while this will be a major move for us, it won't overextend our resources. Not by a long shot. So last Sunday, there we were, ironing out a few more of the details between us.

It occurred to me that I could never imagine my parents having such a conversation. Never heard anyone in the close group of friends I've developed in my life casually talk numbers like this. Nobody in my wife's erstwhile professional circle of friends (nursing assistants), no one in mine (teachers). Just real estate people, and 9/10 of real estate people are just full of overblown crap on general principle. But here we were, a childless couple in this nondescript duplex, calmly working toward a level of self-made affluence I couldn't have really imagined as a child. A million dollars? Two million dollars? Three? Impossible pie-in-the-sky numbers for me as a high school student in the late eighties, when I graduated high school. When I dreamed of affluence circa 1991, it included the obligatory hot car (that I can buy a few times over now), lots of cheap women throwing themselves at me (my body would end up weighed down so deep in the Mon they'd never find it, I married a dangerous woman), and a lot of expensive stuff (me, a student of minimalism today).

It also occurred to me that if my wife and I had kids, there was no way we could have asked them in 2017 to move into a leaking shack on the edge of a heroin ghetto, where a dude got shot just walking home in the alley out back in 2018, where the school system was ranked about as low as you can get for southwestern Pennsylvania (which is really saying something). Could we have done other things with children? Certainly. But I couldn't imagine the kind of kids we would be able to raise with how busy we've been, how little time we've had for anything other than generating income and expanding our portfolio. We certainly couldn't have gone on the vacations we've taken in the last few years with kids. I'm afraid we would have raised entitled little brats of little character and limited drive to succeed for any other reason than to create an opulent lifestyle for themselves, practically blind to their enormous privileges, just like most every other moderately financially-successful couple we know socially.

Thank you all for your insightful contributions here. I look at the things you've carefully done for your children, a college education, a car, a downpayment on a house, a no-interest loan...it's nice.

I bet you would be far better at parenting than you give yourself credit for.  I don't know you in real life, but your persona on here leads me to believe you would have a solid balance of teaching, helping, loving, and discipline.  At least that's what I get when I add your posts together over the time I have been here.

Also, thanks for being a teacher!  I did it for 3.5 years.  Tough and rewarding.  Your career path is very much appreciated!