All Forum Posts by: Devin Olson
Devin Olson has started 5 posts and replied 17 times.
Post: Which came first...The chicken or the egg? 🤔

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Quote from @Dan Thomas:
@Devin Olson
Generally speaking, starting a business with little money up front is very difficult to scale. I've seen the gurus promoting the online arbitrage thing but everyone I know has given up and made no money...well actually they lost money.
Buying a business with established Financials will allow sba or other lending partners to partner with a bank. If you start a business you will have a very difficilt time getting any kind of conventional financing in this market. Banks want to see 2 years of Financials. You will need to go private and pay crazy rates or give away equity.
I love real estate, it gave me the ability to buy a business. As I'm sure you know neither is get rich quick but a business could be quicker but 100% hands on and hard work.
I like both avenues. I still have rentals but my focus is growing my business actively and continuing to buy real estate as I can for long term wealth.
Fantastic breakdown Dan! Thank you.
I am leaning towards buying a cash flowing business around me, and honestly would love the hands on work needed. It sounds fun to me and gives further life purpose.
Post: Which came first...The chicken or the egg? 🤔

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Quote from @Caleb Brown:
I disagree. Not with comparing the 2 but if you are interested in buying a business just start one. Build it from the ground up. Sure it's slower but you get to learn way more and have 0 risk(unless you add CC/debt). Use the 10-20K to learn, buy inventory, etc. Real estate has less moving parts compared to running a business. On the real estate side 10-20K does not give you a whole lot for DP wise unless you did a house hack. If you do buy a business make sure to do your diligence. Many on the lower scale are relying on the one buying to step in and run it, they are not passive at that scale.
Caleb...Thank you for taking the time to respond! 🤝 I appreciate your insight and comparisons.
Further elaborating, The next home purchased would likely be an improvement to my current home. And would be bought as a primary, that could be house hacked. Currently planning to house hack/upgrade every 2 years.
Ideally, I would be buying a company that I would be involved in. The thought of running and managing a company excites me. Long term, I'd like to be less involved and find a good work/family life balance. But starting out am prepared to fully commit.
I do not see real estate or owning a business as a passive income plan, I want to be involved. I enjoy the mental stimulation and challenges.
Curious about your reasoning behind less risk in starting a company, My current logic just comes from reviewing data comparing the percentage of businesses failing with buying vs starting out.
again, thank you for the response! 🤜🤛
Post: Which came first...The chicken or the egg? 🤔

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I'm at a crossroads, torn between two exciting options: buying a business or investing in real estate. While I dream of pursuing both, I need to decide which one to tackle first.
My current income as a Customer Service Manager isn't exactly groundbreaking (around $60,000), but I've been diligent in saving and investing. I've diversified my portfolio across individual accounts, 401(k)s, a Roth IRA, and even ventured into cryptocurrency. Peering into the cash flow potential of businesses on the market, it seems a $10,000 to $20,000 down payment on an SBA style loan could potentially surpass my current salary.
Beyond the financial aspect, I yearn for the independence and fulfillment of being my own boss.
I'm convinced that this path could accelerate my financial progress, paving the way for real estate investments in the near future.
Would you agree or disagree? Open to all tips/advice. 🤜🤛
-Dev
Post: First Investment property

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Quote from @Alison Olson:
Hello, my name is Alison Olson. I am student looking to get into my first investment deal and plan to house hack in the Minneapolis area. I am looking for advice on how to find nice neighborhoods in or near the city to find appreciation. I am new to investing in real estate and look forward to connecting and receiving advice. As well as recommendations on the size of a first investment property, with 2b/2b or 3b/2b etc. I appreciate any help in advance. Thank you!
Wow, hitting the ground running in your investment career!
wish I started this plan as a student, Good luck on your journey. 🙌
Post: Searching for local meet-up groups! Any suggestions?

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Quote from @James Tiegs:
Here’s two that I’m going to next week. Hope to see you there!
https://meetu.ps/e/Mryt4/13bXS4/i
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/1147432-rei-...
Post: Searching for local meet-up groups! Any suggestions?

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Searching for both online and in-person REI meet up type groups! Currently living in St.Paul, Mn.
any good suggestions?
By listening to the BP podcasts, I understand to succeed I need systems, and a team behind me.
Would love to connect with some local agents who feel they could help achieve the following goals:
•Provide useful contacts from contractors to Loan officers and CPAs.
•Help me determine a course of action for preparing to sell my current home for maximum value.
•Has experience helping newer investors and are willing to educate.
•A seasoned investor whos willing to work with me to craft a future RE investment plan.
currently living on the East side of Saint paul, purchaed less than a year ago. Homes have appreciated rather quickly around me. Utilizing Fannie Maes new 5% down for multi-family I'd like to prepare to sell my SFH and house hack a multi-family.
Thank You,
Dev
Post: Looking for Investor focused friends! (Bonus points if in Mn or Wi)

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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Devin Olson:
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Devin Olson:
I may not have much to offer...but I have bad jokes and a positive attitude.

Hey bud! Why did the real estate investor bring a ladder to the open house?
Because they heard the property had high potential!
🤣 Had to ask Chatgpt for a quick joke.
When Einstein got to heaven, he asked the first person he saw, “Excuse me? What’s your IQ?” They reply, “280.” Einstein says, “Great! We can talk about astrophysics!”
Einstein asks the next person he runs into the same question. They reply, “My IQ is 150.” “Wonderful,” he says, “we can talk about events of the day!”
He than comes across a third person and, again, asks their IQ. They answer "45". Einstein says, “OK! So, where do you think the real estate market is headed?”
Oohhhh, ouch. 🤣 That one stings a bit.
you win this round. Where did you hear that one?
Post: Looking for Investor focused friends! (Bonus points if in Mn or Wi)

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Quote from @Zach Burr:
Hi Devin,
Also a new member here and saw your post when I opened the forum for the first time. Also, I'm a dad of young kids, which makes me a bit of a bad joke connoisseur.
-Zach
At least you have an excuse for dad jokes...I don't even have rugrats, yet. 🤣
what pulled you to this community?
Post: Looking for Investor focused friends! (Bonus points if in Mn or Wi)

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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Devin Olson:
I may not have much to offer...but I have bad jokes and a positive attitude.

Hey bud! Why did the real estate investor bring a ladder to the open house?
Because they heard the property had high potential!
🤣 Had to ask Chatgpt for a quick joke.