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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 5 posts and replied 643 times.

Post: Do you track your NET WORTH?

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"A watched pot never boils..."   :)

Post: Raleigh, NC Meetup

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@Michael Jobe It was a great meeting last night. I think that location was much better than the last. Thank you, Michael, for organizing! 

Post: What percentage should I give to my partner?

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@Michael Sears Your title should rather say, " What percentage should my partner and I agree upon?"  After all, he is supplying all the funding.  There is no way to answer without knowing exactly what each will be doing.  50/50 usually seems best for most situations but partnerships are fraught with difficulties as your post title shows...i.e. there is already some "tension" in even the way you frame the question. 

Post: What are your favorite less known tips to make your rehab pop?

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@Alex Applebee I did some black & white stairs recently.  It turned out very nicely, didn't cost much and was fun to do!  

Post: Gently Used Or Damaged Appliances

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I don't think it's a good "selling point" to include damaged and/or used appliances. They may be fine for a rental but not a 'flipped' house.  Just my 2 cents...

Post: Is this safe?

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@Sam Gad That looks very unsafe to me. The floor joists are running parallel to the house and are only supported by a single member girder that is itself improperly supported. 

You have 2 choices:

1. Tear down and properly rebuild the entire structure. 

2. Hire a structural engineer to specify a method to repair this structure.  There's not going to be an easy way. You'd have to double up those outside girders and attach them to the house with a heavy-duty hanger, etc. 

I would chose #1. It will give you a much better and safer result.  I would not ignore this situation; it is a disaster waiting to happen. 

Post: My latest "Flip" in Durham, NC

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@Dumitru AntonThank you so much; you have a good eye!   It's the little details that help sell a house and make it more enjoyable to live in. 

Good luck to you as you start out in your new business. 

Post: General HandyMan

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Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:

I just found out my reliable handyman that I have met through college is moving in the next month. Any ideas on how to track down a good handy man ? I have a property management company in the Jacksonville, FL area that I have started and I need someone affordable, reliable and efficient.

I have tried craigslist but I get so many responses with jokers who are either don't have transportation, over priced or over booked. Just wanting to reach out for some advice.

 Why don't you charge more for your services so that you can afford to hire a "reliable and efficient " person?  If the prevailing wage in your area is 'X' and you can't afford 'X', perhaps you need to re-examine your business set-up. Just a suggestion...

Post: Difficulty finding the right contractor to fit my business

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Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by @J Scott:

Here's the thing...  You don't seem to believe it's possible, but I've been doing it for 7 years now.  I have some of the same contractors with me that I had back in 2008-2009 when I started.  They don't seem to be complaining, and my customers certainly aren't complaining about the quality of the work.  

Btw Art, I'm not saying this would work for your contracting business or that it would work for every investor.  There are certainly things that work for others that don't work for me and my businesses.  All I'm saying is that it CAN work...

J Scott: This is one of those issues that is not going to be resolved here.  My original suggestion to the OP was to seek contractors who were new in business and in need of work.  For them, it would not be a matter of them giving "discounts"; rather their regular price is probably lower to begin with. 

I also would like if you'd answer my other question: "And wouldn't the referrals you give him also expect a discount?" Where does it end?

I believe you that your method works for YOU but I'm not convinced it is in the long term best interest of your contractors (after all, you did say many contractors are not business savvy).  Let me ask you this:  If you can not guarantee a certain volume of work, what are they to base their future business on?  Under your proposed scenario, they have suspended advertising and pursuing other work...all for the sake of your "promised" un-guaranteed future work.  If you can't deliver, say you move or retire, they have put all their eggs in your lower paying basket and have no customer base to fall back on.  They are effectively starting from scratch...after years of being in business... primarily working for you.  Isn't a contracting business better served by having a much broader customer base?

And finally: it is said repeatedly on this forum that good, competent, reliable contractors are extremely rare and hard to find...that is: they are scarce.  Investors who want discounted work are plentiful.  So using supply/demand thinking, how do you figure a contractor should accept lower paying work?  It seems the opposite to me.

I very much enjoy reading your posts and respect your knowledge and willingness to share it here.  I certainly have learned much from your posts.  I disagree with you here on this one but thank you for debating in a gentlemanly fashion!

Post: Difficulty finding the right contractor to fit my business

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Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by :

Why should a business desire a high volume of lower-paying work?  Do you guarantee this high volume? How can you?  And wouldn't the referrals you give him also expect a discount? 

Doesn't giving lots of discounted work devalue his brand... causing his regular pricing to seem extravagant and capricious?

This is a problem that's been addressed by thousands of businesses before I ever mentioned it.  My grocery store gives me discounts for my loyalty.  My coffee shop does.  My title company does.  My ice cream shop does.  Amazon.com does.  Car manufacturers do.  I get volume discounts at Costco.  Likewise when I order business cards in larger quantity.  In fact, I own another business that does manufacturing, and with only one exception, every component and part I purchase is cheaper the more I buy.  I can't even begin to name all the stores that offer "Buy 1 Get 1 Free" incentives.  Almost all major brands will sell at a discount to volume buyers.

You're acting as if discounts for more business and loyalty is the exception, but it's closer to the rule.  Are all these businesses devaluing their brand?  Does the fact that they put things on sale make their regular pricing seem extravagant and capricious?

If many of the largest companies in the world offer loyalty and volume discounts, why should contractors be any different?  What makes contractors special?

Thank you for telling me what Amazon and Costco do.  I contend that they recoup those discounts in other ways, e.g. shipping fees, etc.  No business can consistently operate at a true loss as a business model and expect to survive.  They use loss-leaders and other gimmicks to make you think you are saving when in fact, you are not.  

I also note that you did not answer all of my questions:

"Why should a business desire a high volume of lower-paying work? Do you guarantee this high volume? How can you? And wouldn't the referrals you give him also expect a discount?"

 @Barbara Goodman is exactly right:  You want to make more money by paying your contractors less.  You wrote that they have made "hundreds of thousands" working for you but that simply means they probably could have made "millions" working without you for the same billable hours at full rate.  But as you pointed out: many contractors are not business savvy.  

You wrote:

"Here's the problem -- most business owners who aren't business savvy don't think much about "customer acquisition costs" and "churn costs." Most business owners would be very surprised what it costs to get a new customer and what is lost when you lose a good existing customer. If they truly understood those costs, they'd be much more likely to want long-term relationships with customers...and would likely be willing to pay for those relationships with lower prices."

It's interesting that you see loyalty as a one way street.  I should value your loyalty by taking a loss but you shouldn't value my loyalty (reliability, competence, etc) by paying me my normal rate.

What is the cost to the consumer for hiring unreliable, incompetent or dishonest contractors?  You value premium, reliable service yet seem unwilling to pay for it.  Who needs whom more?  After all: there are many more consumers than reliable contractors.