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All Forum Posts by: Axel Meierhoefer

Axel Meierhoefer has started 35 posts and replied 663 times.

Post: Fixed rate equity loan vs HELOC

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
  • Votes 550
Quote from @Emanuela Hall:

My home is valued at $400K and I owe $140k. I want to buy a long term rental for about $300k. Should I get a HELOC for the down payment and also use it partially to speed up paying my home mortgage?


Yes, you can use a HELOC for the down payment. There are a few little things to consider, but generally that works well.

If you get your long-term rental in very well performing locations you can use the positive cash flow to pay the HElOC back.

Just to give you the math (the numbers are simplified to make it easy to follow):

- You get the HELOC for 70% of the equity = $260K * 70% = $182K

- you use $75K for the down payment of the $300k investment property

- If you have $500/month positive cash flow it will take you $75000/$500=150 month to pay back the HELOC

- When looking at really well-performing deals between 1% rule and 2% rule, you could probably three properties, professionally managed in the right location, each generating $333/month in positive cash flow, so your HELOC would be paid back in about 6 years.

- Keep in mind that a HELOC has the benefit of requiring you to only pay interest on the actual balance. That means each month you pay down the $75K (just an example) you took out, the payment for interest gets lower.

- The other nice thing is that you can always use a HELOC like this as your reserve, so you don't really have to put money for vacancy, CAPEX and vacancy aside and use the full positive cash flow each month for pay-back

I realize that this is a bunch of stuff to consider. If you like to chat about it, let me know. Happy to have a call.

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
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Quote from @Nick Trimmer:

Here's a typical "Buy-Box" from an Institutional Investment Firm I know.  Disregard the markets and focus on the other criteria.  Should be helpful!


 Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I know my providers can consistently do better than those criteria.

Post: Where are the best BTR deal hiding?

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Escondido, CA
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Quote from @Basit Siddiqi:

I personally think that most people would appreciate inherting a bunch of SFH's but they may be overwhelmed, especially if they don't have experience with real estate.

I think seller financed notes would be better to hand off or investments in bonds / securities.

Inheriting real estate has issues such as
1) What is the value of this real estate?
2) Who do I need to contact? Is there a property management company involved?
Do I have to contact the tenants?
3) There is potentially a delayed transfer upon death if done through probate
4) They may not want to deal with the 'time' it takes to manage the property


Thanks. Those are great point to consider. For me and my family I created a series LLC structure that is held in a trust and all properties re professionally managed.

I secretly ope my demise will not be by being run over by a bus but maybe during a few weeks or months so I could explain the instructions that are provided in our trust documents. They are complete and get updated regularly but probably would benefit from an explanation.

I like the transfer of the cash flowing portfolio as that secures teh future of my daughter and my grandson with inflation protection.

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Escondido, CA
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Quote from @Zach Matson:
Quote from @Axel Meierhoefer:
Quote from @Zach Matson:

I'm a builder and investor in Boise, ID. I'm currently designing my next builds, and want to make sure they are the most appealing and can make financial sense to investors. So, I have a few questions for those of you still buying single family homes as rentals. 

1. How are you analyzing your deal and what is your goal when you are buying a SF home? Is it cashflow still(and how much?), or more for long term benefits and try to break even? 
2. What is your strategy for renting... is it LT, MT, ST, rent by the room, or something else? 

3.  How do you value new construction as opposed to an older home that may look nice, but still older? Do you take into account that you shouldn't have any mainenance for at least 10 years or not really? 

4. Is there anything that you have really wished you could find in homes that you don't see often that would increase your return or lower your expenses? 

5. When you see a listing, does it help when the remarks are tailored toward investors? Such as ease of maintenance, durability, return on investment, etc?

6. Is there any other suggestions you have for me to adapt to the current market? 

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

A few of my ideas so far, that I'm starting to implement...

1. On houses that have small yards I have done artificial(but real looking, they've come a long way) grass. People have mixed feelings but it seems that investors love it at least. 

2. My most recent floorplan has private bathrooms attached to each bedroom. This only increases my cost by maybe 5k(added a bathroom), but seems like it will be much more marketable as a rental. But, this did eliminate a family room upstairs, so the only living space is on the main floor. 

3. HUGE primary en-suite with walk in showers and soaker tubs. 

4. Model my homes and design after $1M+ dollar homes, but they are in more up-and-coming neighborhoods. 
            - So basically they are the nicest homes in the neighborhood, but the neighborhoods are very much improving around them. 

5. I use upper mid-level finishes. Better than builder grade but not top of the line like on the high end custom homes. The result is a very upscale feel compared to other comparable price points typically. I.E. Good quality LVP flooring, Upper mid level appliances, energy efficient furnaces and tankless water heaters, semi-custom and now custom cabinets, quartz counters, and each home is professionally designed. 


Zach, I have been reading through the comments and understand that most people aim to respond to the questions you posted.

The one thing I believe you probably need to do (and can do better than most non-locals) is a detailed market analysis.

While living in San Francisco till before the start of the pandemic, many many people were talking about Boise. I saw report after report how hot a market it was and how prices shot up. It felt like there was a risk of overbuilding.

I would really analyze that point before building for investors.

For me, as a starting point I still use the 1% rule. If that works the rest of the numbers mostly work as well. The question is if that can be achieved both on the sales price of a finished house and the rent level you can expect consistently. If the house is fine but rent to make the numbers work is too high and the few who try to afford it flake out frequently, it's not good for investors.

So I am sure you know your market and suggest really analyzing how much more inventory it needs for renting in the foreseeable future.


 I would definitely say that there hasn't been an overbuilding problem in the single family space that I'm in. Possibly in multifamily in the short term, but with interest rates where they've been there haven't been any new deals started, so we may see a short term increase in vacancy rates and lower rents, before being massively undersupplied in the mid-term. For over a decade we've had vacancy rates in the 1-2% range before increasing the past year or so to around I believe 5% now. 

But as far as my niche, in single family infill... we still have a lack of supply. There are definitely buyers sitting on the sidelines due to high prices and high interest rates. 

You're right about Boise being a hot market...really in the top 5 from 2013 to 2021 consistently as far as price increases and population growth, as well as ranked places to live. We have dipped since mid 2021 in prices because many locals have been priced out of new homes. And, the 1% rule hasn't really been a thing here since probably 2015 or so, and even then it was hard to find. It's physically impossible to build to the 1% rule right now and for the past several years, unless someone is doing MT or ST rentals. 

I know that in general we need the housing in the single family space. But it's definitely good to hear from people how they analyze their plans for rentals. I guess in comparing to what my buyers have already been , to what people have been saying in here... most of my buyers have been using my new builds for ST or rent by the room and finding cash flow that way. I do have some townhomes I'll be building coming up that may make more sense for LT rentals so this is a good start to see what I can make work.


 One way to  play this market as a builder could be to have the purchase secured before yuo start building a property. You could buy the infill-lot and offer a few different building plans to investors. if anybody likes the deal, they can sign a purchase contract with a realistic completion data. That way it will be up to them if they want to play on possible future appreciation, LT, MT or LT. Yoo would have a dependable profit margin.

That's not an max-approach but a sound business strategy. If ever a property ultimately gets finished and the investors want to get rid of it upon completion you could have a first right of refusal in your contract.

This concept stems from the "Social farming community". The idea is for farmers (mostly organic) who don't want to produce at an industrial scale but focus on healthy food. They decided to offer an annual membership where the members request what they would like to get for their membership funds. In a meeting the list of crops is decided for the year, the farmers do all the planting, care and harvesting and each months when the season starts the members get a basket of fresh organic fruit and veg. They pay each month, the farmers have a dependable income and can calculate exactly how to operate the farm and have profit to pay themselves and the community can grow over time. I have ti see work great in Europe. Because the farmers know their land, the local climate and grow a very diverse crop, they will never get wiped out like the mono-crop industrial guys when there is bad weather or droughts or things like that.

I am sharing this because I believe creative approaches can make you successful in a field that most people believe has only one way to operate successfully.

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Axel Meierhoefer
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
  • Votes 550
Quote from @Zach Matson:

I'm a builder and investor in Boise, ID. I'm currently designing my next builds, and want to make sure they are the most appealing and can make financial sense to investors. So, I have a few questions for those of you still buying single family homes as rentals. 

1. How are you analyzing your deal and what is your goal when you are buying a SF home? Is it cashflow still(and how much?), or more for long term benefits and try to break even? 
2. What is your strategy for renting... is it LT, MT, ST, rent by the room, or something else? 

3.  How do you value new construction as opposed to an older home that may look nice, but still older? Do you take into account that you shouldn't have any mainenance for at least 10 years or not really? 

4. Is there anything that you have really wished you could find in homes that you don't see often that would increase your return or lower your expenses? 

5. When you see a listing, does it help when the remarks are tailored toward investors? Such as ease of maintenance, durability, return on investment, etc?

6. Is there any other suggestions you have for me to adapt to the current market? 

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

A few of my ideas so far, that I'm starting to implement...

1. On houses that have small yards I have done artificial(but real looking, they've come a long way) grass. People have mixed feelings but it seems that investors love it at least. 

2. My most recent floorplan has private bathrooms attached to each bedroom. This only increases my cost by maybe 5k(added a bathroom), but seems like it will be much more marketable as a rental. But, this did eliminate a family room upstairs, so the only living space is on the main floor. 

3. HUGE primary en-suite with walk in showers and soaker tubs. 

4. Model my homes and design after $1M+ dollar homes, but they are in more up-and-coming neighborhoods. 
            - So basically they are the nicest homes in the neighborhood, but the neighborhoods are very much improving around them. 

5. I use upper mid-level finishes. Better than builder grade but not top of the line like on the high end custom homes. The result is a very upscale feel compared to other comparable price points typically. I.E. Good quality LVP flooring, Upper mid level appliances, energy efficient furnaces and tankless water heaters, semi-custom and now custom cabinets, quartz counters, and each home is professionally designed. 


Zach, I have been reading through the comments and understand that most people aim to respond to the questions you posted.

The one thing I believe you probably need to do (and can do better than most non-locals) is a detailed market analysis.

While living in San Francisco till before the start of the pandemic, many many people were talking about Boise. I saw report after report how hot a market it was and how prices shot up. It felt like there was a risk of overbuilding.

I would really analyze that point before building for investors.

For me, as a starting point I still use the 1% rule. If that works the rest of the numbers mostly work as well. The question is if that can be achieved both on the sales price of a finished house and the rent level you can expect consistently. If the house is fine but rent to make the numbers work is too high and the few who try to afford it flake out frequently, it's not good for investors.

So I am sure you know your market and suggest really analyzing how much more inventory it needs for renting in the foreseeable future.

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Axel Meierhoefer
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
  • Votes 550
Quote from @Bonnie Low:

There's a lot to unpack in your questions but I like that you're giving it a lot of thought. Personally, I am always buying for cash flow. That's usually hard to get with a new build, however, a lot of builders have been offering interest rate buy downs so that makes the new build product a little more (or a lot more) attractive than existing construction in some cases. I do like that new homes won't have major maintenance required for a long time. I find that a lot of new homes are built in neighborhoods that have HOAs. That's a no-go for me. It's just too much hassle, added expense and you never know when they're going to change their rules.


I totally agree on the HOA point. I never buy anything with HOA

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
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Quote from @K S.:
Quote from @Jack Seiden:
Quote from @Jack B.:

Or have you? 

A woman I recently dated also has a rental portfolio and retired in her 30's. She met a lady in California who told her as you get older you won't want to deal with the hassle of tenants and rentals or PM's, and you'll want to sell like I did. I agreed with her and so did the girl I was dating for a few months at that time. 

So that begs the question, do any of you have an exit plan? Opportunity zones? 1031 into DST? What?

I have some real life experience with this, my grandfather is 88 years old, his wife my grandmother is in failing health (chronic illness is expensive), he has 5 properties right now 4/5 were bought pre 1980 so obviously have appreciated a ton the 5th has probably gone up 5x since he bought in and that’s the one that’s done “worst” now this sounds like an great portfolio everyone dreams of right? Wrong, well two of them are in a part of dc that is rapidly declining & no one in the family wants to take care of (and he certainly cannot) and has deferred maintenance on both, the other two are beachfront and a block from the beach, one already got it by a hurricane (no damage, but did trigger a special assessment & insurance skyrocketed) the other one just being near saltwater for 70 years takes a toll on a place, the other thing that happen’s with real estate over time is appreciation eventually rapidly outpaces rent growth so these aren’t as big cash flows as you’d think, a decision is was made to keep these properties both for appreciation and of course stepped up basis (most of these properties he bought for nothing and then depreciated the hell out of) while he has great assets and it will all be fine in the ends and we are all very lucky he has the assets to cover my grandmothers care, frankly trying to figure all this when he’s 88 and everyone is stressed just isn’t ideal, he probably should have just 1031’d up certain properties that had environmental and/or let’s just say locational risk into new or very new construction in the easy to rent burbs like a decade ago, while the tax implications always make selling at tough proposition, I think at a certain point in everyone’s life especially if there are lucky enough to have kept properties for decades should transition them into these easiest assets they can find in their market (you can even put in a reit or more specifically a Delaware statutory trust) to make thing’s easier for them and their family once they are no longer capable of managing those properties themselves.

Correct, it's a myth that the longer you hold a house, the better the return in the end. I bet investing that money in the market would have returned the same without the hassle and worries they have now. Constant renovations needed to maintain rents and the house itself and 25% of recapture will be insane after 50-100 years plus the house may not be worth more than the land it sits on since homes are not designed to last that long. Also, demographics change and constant 1031 exchanging into newer homes will ensure that you never pay off that mortgage before retirement. 


 That's exactly what I am thinking

Post: Where are the best BTR deal hiding?

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
  • Votes 550
Quote from @Nick Trimmer:

Hi Axel!

JWB and Yellowbird both do a good job in Jacksonville.  Links are here: 

https://www.jwbrealestatecapital.com/
https://yellowbirdre.com/

Good luck in your search!


 Thanks Nick. I am aware f JWB. Need to get back to them 

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
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Quote from @Account Closed:

From a tax perspective, its best to "buy, borrow, and die". If you can gift your heirs cash flowing real estate they can rely on, I would think that is practically better then a massive stock portfolio. 


 I agree. That's why I suggest to my followers to use the organization I used to develop my estate plan and the structure of the portfolio both to preserve anonymity as well as limited liability 

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Axel Meierhoefer
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Escondido, CA
  • Posts 676
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Quote from @David M.:

@Axel Meierhoefer

So what is your target refi?  What sort of delayed satisfaction are your targeting?


 I am looking for interest rates starting with a 5.X% and the delayed satisfaction could be up to 5 years, but I think 3 years is probably most realistic. The good thing is that this approach allows for up to 5 years from day of closing, which is convenient and removes any pressure. Anybody can keep tracking interest rates and value development/appreciation, even though the latter is helpful icing on the cake.