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All Forum Posts by: David W.

David W. has started 29 posts and replied 133 times.

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117
Originally posted by @Amit P.:
@David Waddleton

I locked in with Chase on 2 duplexes this week at 5.125%, no points, 30 year fixed. You can do better on your rates which should help your numbers.

 @amit P so you got Chase bank loan for Ohio at 5.125% no points?!

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117
Originally posted by @Tom Shallcross:

@David W. - I love the ambition to get in the game, but I agree with most of the forum. If you're excited about 8-10% you're better off putting your 25k towards private lending and not incurring the headaches.  

Also, if you are not buying at a discount or providing any/much value-add, you don't have a way to create equity and refi our your original 25k.  It's just stuck there and thus it's not a scalable model.  

A few minor more tactical points -  is the duplex metered where you can even make each tenant pay for water, electric, heat?  Is this the norm in the area for a renter?  Also, Columbus, OH can get about 2 ft of snow per year so run your landscaping costs through the year to cover snow removal.   

 Hey @Tom Shallcross so I have confirmed that the top is renting for $700 and bottom unit is being remodeled prior to closing. I read the lease agreement for up top that signed a 1 year Dec 1, 2018 for $700/mth and is responsible for all utilities, water, power, gas. City is responsible for snow removal and so I will rent out the bottom for $700. PM and another PM I talked to both said that they rent out very fast in that area and said a 2 week turn around to get the bottom rented. 

I am in the process of securing a 5.75% with no points and total closing costs $3500. This makes my margins look a lot better and am towards 11% ROI. Not stellar but what do you think?

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
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  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117
Originally posted by @Victor S.:

Basically what everyone else had said. What is your current RE strategy? Is it just cash flow? Value-add? BRRRR? How long is it going to take you to raise another $30k? By the way, you haven't "bought" this duplex yet (thank God).

 My current strategy is to cash flow and reinvest and build equity. I am in LA where properties are a million and are so over inflated I am in awe of how wealthy some people are they don't care if the property makes sense or not. 

So cash flow and I would love to BRRRR in LA but can't find a thing

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
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  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:

@David Waddleton what made you decide on Columbus? I would recommend Mesa, AZ and Cleveland OH.

 Cleveland's population is decreasing while Columbus is increasing and has a strong economy, school, sports, tech etc. Just what I have researched =)

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117
Originally posted by @Marc Winter:

Nope.  Keep looking.  You can do better.  Don't be in a hurry, and don't let the competition push you.  Just keep inspecting.

what ROI do you look for or are happy to get?

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
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  • Los Angeles
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Originally posted by @Doug Burrell:

@David Waddleton David if this was a good deal the bank would be giving you a really good deal on a loan from what I can see they think it's a bit risky so they're protecting themselves. Seems like you're starting out over-leveraged I like someone else said your cash on cash return isn't that great.must have some future location opportunity or something that you haven't disclosed walk away and find a better deal.

 hmm they don't know anything about the property and the rate I got was prior to giving them the property address from what I recall.

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
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  • Los Angeles
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Update: So I just received the lease agreement and the tenant above is actually paying $700/mth and is in charge of all utilities which is a positive thing as that means it is more realistic to rent downstairs out at the same. 

I also received inspection report and it does look like a lot of repairs but will be asking for credit or repairs completed. If agent says no then I cancel. 

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117
Originally posted by @Amit P.:
@David Waddleton

I locked in with Chase on 2 duplexes this week at 5.125%, no points, 30 year fixed. You can do better on your rates which should help your numbers.

 Chase Bank gave you that? 

Post: Just Bought a Duplex - Need Advice! =)

David W.Posted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117
Originally posted by @Jason L.:
Originally posted by @David W.:
Originally posted by @Tchaka Owen:

@David W. - it's not a bad deal. Here's my lone question: if ARV is $100k and it needs $4k of work, what's the reason you're paying $100k for it?

 Thanks! Well competition. First 3 properties I put offers in got bought over asking and all cash. So this one got at asking. Got it fast before agent could get the full week if offers. I'm guessing could have been sold for $110k.

If I can rent out each at $700 per unit. My property manager is confident as I just spoke then that improves my margins! 

 What changed with your property manager's estimate, other than you balking at the original deal? In other words, why wasn't the PM "confident" about $700 back when they told you $650? Not for nothing but the PM is highly incentivized (i.e. they get nothing unless you buy) for you to buy this house. I'd want to know exactly why they are so confident now but weren't when you first asked them. Ask for hard evidence, not just their most recent opinion.

My long-winded way of telling you to do your own research and rely on that. Go on Zillow/Trulia/Redfin tonight and look at all the comparable 1 bedrooms in your area to make your own determination as to what the unit will rent for. You don't want to be in a situation where you HAVE to rent it for $700 to feel good, but the market is only telling you $650 or less.

It was the realtor that said that but said of course it varies depending on the condition and we have to do a walk through and inspection. I spoke to my property manager and they said $700 is a fair price and again depending on condition could be between $675 and $725. I did check rentometer and trulia and it is accurate from what I see that the average is $700 in the area. 

I also am working on getting a 5.75% 30 year fixed so that will also help with my end. with recalculating it shows now about 10.8% ROI.

If this is too risky then what is an example of good property numbers? 

Post: Who Invests in Columbus?!

David W.Posted
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  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 117

Are there any investors that invest in Columbus? What do you think about Westgate and Wishire heights between Wilson and the 70 highway off of Sullivan?!