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All Forum Posts by: Evan M.

Evan M. has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Scott E. serious question - do new investors have any business not getting more conventional financing?  I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm genuinely asking.  Because my first thought was... what if interest rates continue to rise?  How will they just "refinance out"?

They can likely get a 30-year, fixed rate DSCR loan in the high 7s or mid 8s. If this sinks the deal... it's not a good deal.

@Evan M. I want to know more about this property and why it appeals to you:

Is it on market, off market?  

How far away?  

Have you made any offers yet or is this your very first?  

How much will it rent for?



Thanks for your replies! We are looking at 3/2 houses, <10 years old, out of state (we are priced out where we live- CO), for appx $170-200k that rent for $1600-$2000. Our hope is to buy multiple properties in the same region over the next few years and hold for long term investments, cash flowing in the future. We have another business for income now, so it's not 100% about cash flow now, but we'd like to stay at break even to avoid negative cash flow obviously. Just trying to negotiate to get our way in but not very familiar with all the creative ways to break into investing with only a downpayment. Trying to figure out a plan for how to steadily acquire properties and build our portfolio... Would love multifamily options in the future, but starting with bite sized 3/2s.

Wondering if someone can give some newbies advice. We are looking at making our first purchase of a single-family home rental property out of state. The particular home is $200 K and we could supply 20% down. We just both quit our full-time jobs to run a business we started in 2020. The private investor we’re working with understands this predicament and that we couldn’t get traditional funding via mortgage or heloc through a traditional bank due to being newly self-employed with a young business, despite our excellent credit. He suggested that if we brought him a deal, he would bankroll it for us and then we could refinance him out of the deal in two years. He suggested that the two years of rental payments plus the continued success of our business would be enough for mortgage lenders to consider lending to us in the future. Our goal is to grow our buy-and-hold portfolio. We’ve grown close to this individual and feel that he’s giving us a good deal at 6% with 20% down. However he’s asking us for more details about the terms we are looking for. Of course when we’ve been running the BiggerPockets calculator we’ve been entering 30 year terms. But this particular investor is used to lendering for short term fix and flip investing at 12%. Conservatively, this deal would break even/cash flow $150 at 30 years. If we were to suggest a 15 year term, it would be a negative $300 cash flow situation (including variable expenses in the equation). And obviously if we did a shorter term it would be even deeper negative cash flow. In this situation, should we just be happy with a negative cash flow situation in order to get our feet wet? Is there any way an investor like this would be willing to do a 30 year term when the plan is to refinance them out in two years? This is our first time negotiating any deal so we’re just trying to figure out what the hell to do to make it a win-win. Any other creative solutions in this scenario? TIA 

Post: Where are people interested in buying?

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Quote from @Brendan Harrison:

Hey Amor!

Tulsa is such a hot place right now. I definitely suggest around TU, Cherry Street area, Anywhere near the riverwalk. Many of my investors avoid North Tulsa but if your interested in section 8 housing it could be a good play. 

I'm a real estate investment specialist in the Oklahoma City and Tulsa markets and I work with a lot of investors like yourself to help connect them to investment properties. My team is moving 35 properties/month across Oklahoma. I'd love to connect and get you hooked on your next deal.

Hi Brendan- Would love to get in touch with you in the near future. Looking at investment opportunities in OK- specifically OKC at the moment but also considering Tulsa.