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All Forum Posts by: Fendy Jn pierre

Fendy Jn pierre has started 4 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Help making sense of estimate

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Fendy Jn pierre, I agree with @Matt N..

The thing I would focus on is discount points. With that you are CHOOSING to pay the lender some money up front in exchange for a LOWER interest rate.

It doesn't sound like you're getting a great rate even with that discount. So, perhaps you can do better somewhere else.

Also, do you even want to buy the rate down on a loan right now. If you think rates might drop a lot in the next couple years you might have an opportunity to refinance into a lower rate before this move would pay off on this first loan. 


 Hi Kevin, I agree. I have to see if buying rate down make sense at all. Thanks for your input

Post: Help making sense of estimate

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Matt N.:

I'd push back on the appraisal fee. That seems high or not even required.

Why are you paying for discount points and still getting a rate over 8%? With 20% that is insane.

Find another lender. I have a great contact at a local bank if you want to speak with him. DM me I dont think I can provide info here. 


 @Matt, thanks for your input. you are right about the point, i didnt even realize that.  i knew a lot was wrong in this but i didn't really know what to look for. i have good credit score, i am putting 20% down, i am paying for point and still the rate is 8.8 %. Insane is an understatement. Thanks a lot for pointing that out. i have dm you

Post: Help making sense of estimate

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8

Hello, 

A few months ago I wrote about how I was done procrastinating and ready to get in the game. Since then I have been viewing properties and today I saw one that I thing the numbers might make sense and I am ready to make an offer. I asked a lender to run an estimate for me and I was shocked at the amount of fees that I need to pay. Obviously I am a newbie in the game and I do have that newbie skepticism and always feel like I am being ripped off ( has happened many times before). Is accurate ( please see below). Is there some that I can remove or put into the monthly payment or get some kind of seller concession for? Please help me make sense of it. 

The property is 450K. I am putting 20 % down ( 90K) but I see there is about 27K in fees and closing cost. Also interest rate has gone slightly down but I am getting an 8.8 % interest rate with credit score of 734. 

Lender Fees $1,640.00

Discount Points $4,680.00

Appraisal Fees $825.00

Credit Report Fee $25.00

Tax Service $68.00

Credit Technology and Verification Fee $75.00

Title Fees $836.50

Owner's Title Insurance $513.00

Lender's Title Insurance $2,507.00

Transfer Taxes $9,626.00

Recording Fees $519.50

Total Closing Costs $21,315.00

Prepaid Interest 2 days @ $87.53 /day $175.06

1 year Insurance Premium $1,500.00

Property Taxes $3,632.04

Insurance Escrow Reserves 2 months @ $125.00 /month $250.00

Tax Escrow Reserves 2 months @ $302.67 /month $605.34

Total Loan Prepaids $6,162.44

Down Payment $90,000.00

Total Estimated Due at Closing $117,477.44

Loan Program

Purchase Price $450,000.00
Total Loan Amount $360,000.00
Interest Rate 8.875%
APR 8.337%
Product Indigo Edge NonQM 30 Yr Fixed

Your Monthly housing breakdown

Principal & Interest: $2,864.32
Insurance: $125.00
Taxes: $302.67
TOTAL $3,291.99

Post: Safe neighborhood in Philadelphia

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Melanie P.:
Quote from @Fendy Jn pierre:

 Yes, I do. You're 30 minutes away. You should look at Philadelphia as a whole, find properties within your budget that pencil out financially and on a weekend afternoon go by the properties that were working and (at first) keep notes on the neighborhood. Do the residents have cars? Is there lots of stoop sitting? Drug sales going on? Is it quiet or are people hanging out in the street and blasting their music? Did you get robbed or offered drugs while walking around? 

Get lost in the neighborhoods. Turn off your GPS and just drive around checking out areas. See if you can find your way home without the GPS after wandering. While you're out in the field make notes of properties you like that aren't being maintained - look for high grass and weeds, broken windows or unshoveled snow in the winter. These have the potential to be receptive to an off market offer. You can look the owner up when you get home andd reach out to them. Talk to people you see in the neighborhood - do they know anyone interested in selling.Is their landlord ready to retire?

Presumably, this will be your retirement. The fruits of 40 hours a week labor, every week, for your whole life. Investing time in learning the market so you understand what the much more helpful advice with street boundaries and heat maps really MEANS. Investing time to learn the market will pay great financial rewards to future you.


 Thanks a lot Melanie for this detailed response. All good questions that are going right into my checklist. But I couldn't help laughing to the " did you get robbed" question though. Lol. But I understand all your points and agree. Thank you again for taking the time to respond. 

Post: paralysis of analysis state 4 years later. Help

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Chris Pelc:
Quote from @Fendy Jn pierre:

Hello, 

I have been procrastinating and finding all kind of excuse to not get started. 4 years later I am unable ( or unwilling) to stick to one strategy. I have seen money pass and wasted that could have been growing right now. I have some money saved for a downpayment on a property. I have decided to start with small family ( 2-4 units). I live in the philadelphia area. I am looking for an investor friendly agent that could help me start in the east coast ( PA, NJ, MD, DE) within 1.5 hour drive from Philly. I am through with analysis. I need to start right now. Please help. 


Hey Fendy. It's definitely a big step getting away from analysis paralysis. I think that a quality agent that truly understands how to run numbers and analyze deals to lead you in a good direction is what you need to get over the final hurdle. 

I have worked with a lot of first time investors, some even out of state. The first goals to overcome is objectify the exit strategy. If you don't have one... Find one. I would also suggest having a couple of exit strategies to minimize risk. Have you defined any specific areas or neighborhoods you would like to buy? Have you pinned down financing?

For first time investors, i think that the BRRRR strategy is a pretty safe bet. Something that is a little distressed, where you can add some sweat equity. Get your hands a little dirty, and a little experience managing a project. Then sitting back once you have a nice cash flowing asset to borrow off of.

Give me a call if you're interested in talking further. 


Thank you so much for your detailed response. I never considered an exit strategy before; your advice is incredibly helpful. I have spoken with five agents already, and none of them seemed interested, which is surprising. Based on my post, they can see that I am new to this and might need guidance. However, after making contact, they walked away without any explanation.

I am willing to listen to and follow the advice of more experienced people, but it feels like some agents are only interested in their bottom line. I can assure you that I may take time to get started, but once I am in, I am in for the long haul. Unfortunately, some people only think about immediate gains.

I want to become a real estate investor, not just someone investing in real estate, if that makes sense. I am looking for an agent who understands that I am new and is willing to give me the benefit of the doubt. There might not be a lot for you in the beginning, but it is just the start.

Thank you again for such great advice Mr Pelc.

Post: Safe neighborhood in Philadelphia

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Melanie P.:

Cherry Hill

That's a joke. The only way to learn the neighborhoods is to spend time in them. 


Ok. Thanks for responding. Do you have any advise on how much time I should spend in each of the about 150 neighborhoods and 100 suburbs?? I live in Delaware county and doesn't know the city well and I am sure there are experienced investors and agents who know it well and can give me direction, which is what this group is about if I recall. Thanks for the support.

Post: Safe neighborhood in Philadelphia

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Dan Powers:

Hello @Fendy Jn pierre Philly is certainly a block by block city. In terms of the safest areas in the city, this is a very generalized list so let me know if you want me to expand on anything in terms of borders, zip codes, etc. Now in terms of investment in these areas it can be quite tough because of the higher barrier of entry in terms of purchase price and demand for these pockets but there are still deals to be found.

  • Anything in between Girard and Washington Ave
  • University City/ Spruce & Squirrel Hill
  • Manayunk & Roxborough
  • West Germantown, Mt. Airy, Cedarbrook, Chestnut Hill
  • Pennsport, Dickinson Narrows, Passyunk Square

 @ Dan Powers. Thank you for your response. I sent you a DM.

Post: Safe neighborhood in Philadelphia

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8

Hi my Philly friends. I know Philly safety differ from block to block. Does anyone has access to a list of safest area to invest in Philadelphia. I remember seeing a list like that on this forum but I can't find it anymore. 

Thank you 

Post: paralysis of analysis state 4 years later. Help

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Alan Asriants:

Hey Fendy! If you're struggling to get started and don't know where to look, I'd highly recommend doing a house hack. 

It's killing two birds with one stone with low barriers to entry. 

Not only do you get an investment but you also have a place to live. Getting a househack helps you understand if RE investing is right for you, gives you first hand experience at your doorstep, and starts to churns those wheels inside your head with your next move. 

I am an agent and investor in the phila area and help lots of newbies to experienced investors. Feels free to reach out anytime!


 Hi Alan. I can't do househack. I sent you a DM.

Post: paralysis of analysis state 4 years later. Help

Fendy Jn pierrePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Sheryl Sitman:

Stop beating yourself up and focus on moving forward. You will need different agents for each market.  DM me if you need a Philly investor friendly energetic agent. That is not me - I can connect you :-)   And maybe focus on just one market or you will spread yourself too thin - I can not imagine analyzing deals for multiple states all at once. Maybe you need to hammer down your strategy.


 I sent you a DM. Thank you very much.