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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 12 posts and replied 66 times.

Post: What are the most important rules when getting started?

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thank you everyone for the advice!  And Troy Cole , I've actually been contempllating  going to law school, would it be possible for me to go to law school while wholesaling/ investing in real estate?

Originally posted by @Ilya V.:

@Account Closed awesome resource, thank you! I will keep it handy to look for all other deals. 

 You're welcome! Glad I could help :)

Post: Why Are there So many Real Estate Mentors amd Teachers?

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Originally posted by @Joseph Ball:

Jessica, you are so right. I have a very successful business. How much money would I accept to cut my business in half, or by any percentage? I don't think I would do it for $100,000.

I read about these people paying big bucks for "GURU, "Mentoring", and I shudder.

I'm going to give you a big VOTE for sanity. Yes Jessica, the Emperor has no clothes.

Thank you, I'm glad someone understands where I'm coming from... Lol

Post: Why Are there So many Real Estate Mentors amd Teachers?

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Originally posted by @Royce Talbo:

Part of it is because they do want to teach people, but they also make some profit from doing seminars, writing books and making a profit from that, and doing pod casts to make a name for themselves.  Their name is a brand and that's one way of making money.  They tell you all the things that beginners don't know, but never the real nitty gritty details or tricks they learn along the way, that they keep to themselves. 

The other reason is that people who are learning are beginners and pose no real threat to them as they are only entering the market with limited funds that will just get a few properties.  This will actually help them as these people entering the market will improve the property and force appreciation, in turn it will raise the property value of the properties in the area, thus increasing the value of other investors properties that they currently hold. 

 Thanks for the response, I know they are making short term money by teaching others,  but couldn't they make more with less competition? However, the appreciation part makes sense, as the more buyers there are, the more  property values go up. Still, it seems that in the long run it would hurt more then hellp, for the reasons I have discussed above.

Post: Why Are there So many Real Estate Mentors amd Teachers?

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Originally posted by @Arlan Potter:

Jessica,  

My nephew, that I has wanted to start investing for years, just bought a rental in Danville.(I may have already mentioned it to you). 

Over the last ten years I have told hundreds of people what and how I do what I do. I would like to say that I have created a bunch of competition for myself, but not so much has happened. Most listen and they just don't get it. They are too concerned with making a living, I guess. 

I even have expanded our local Landlord Assoc. Into a REI association. Every month I have guest speakers and then I talk for 30-40 minutes about REI. Free info.

I have been investing for 11 years and am more pumped up about it today than ever. I, like most investors, like to talk about real estate investing. I don't think I will create much competition for myself, but if I do, good for them. 

I know an older gentlemen in our town, and he started buying during the crash of the 80's. He has hundreds of SFRS. Every time we get together, we have great conversations about owning houses and what a great wealth building tool it is.

I imagine the only competition to worry about is the Chinese, there are a billion of them,

Thank you for your response, that is so interesting that your nephew is investing here! What does he think of this market? Honestly I have been cautious about investing here because  Danville is shrinking instead of growing, and  the town has never quite been the same since the textile  factories shut down.  I totally understand what you are saying but I still don't quite get why people share so much info, I mean yes there may not be any noticeable changes tomorrow since real estate is a longterm game, but what about in the future? Especially with the  advancement of technology and the increased integration of putsourcing and automation  into real estate, which will make it easier than ever for new investors I'd imagine. Even funding will be easier to obtain in the near future thanks to crowdfunding platforms, and an increase of syndication training programs.

Post: Why Are there So many Real Estate Mentors amd Teachers?

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Reminds me of the oil and gold rushes of the past. The people who got REALLY rich weren't the people digging for oil and gold - it was the people who  developed tools essential to making the process more effiicient.

Post: Why Are there So many Real Estate Mentors amd Teachers?

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Never have I ever seen any other industry so ready and willing to  give out so much information about how to profit from real estate to  potential/ future competitors. I find it interesting and even a bit suspicious. There are THOUSANDS of books on how to invest in real estate and start your own business. There are tons and tons of podcasts. There are a myriad of guru training courses.  There are  scores of free websites , articles, and forums like BP that give away a wealth of information. Why? It seems that with this, coupled with extremely low barrier to entry and  a limited supply of land and real estate properties ( especially  commercial, such as apartments), and  the expansion of  major national/global brands who have billions of capital at their disposal, would be a recipe for oversaturation and major competition. Why would  investors be so eager to share advice and tips? Isn't that  shooting ones'self in the foot?  I know real estate is supposedly local ( although I feel that bug institutions beg to differ), wouldn't that be an even greater imcentive to dominate your market  instead of telling your competition exactly how you did it?  What do these people  get out of sharing their secrets and trainiing their future competition?  How will real estate continue to remain lucrative if so many people now have access to this information? I recently read a book that talked about fortune building, and history has shown that emerging big players, along with more an d more competitors entering  a market, leads to  shrinking profit margins and impedes growth. Why do people seem to think Real Estate is immune to this?  I'm not trying to start anything I just want to know the reasoning behind this phenomenon. Oh, and please no b.s. answers like, "Sharing is caring!!". I'm not convinced that everyone is just doing this out of the kindness of their hearts when business and money are involved ( although I know that se do).

Post: Can I become a millionaire as a wholesaler?

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Originally posted by @Brian Gibbons:

Here's the deal about wholesaling only business versus being a transaction engineer

wholesaling only means that you're looking for C and D neighborhoods with a huge amount of work in order to be able to buy a $.65 times ARV

Getting a buyers list together were you know what they want to buy and how much they want to pay and where is really important wholesaling which most wholesalers don't do

If you did that you could go hunt for them and maybe the cash buyers would buy a few at a time

Now I refer my marketing not to be we buy houses, any condition, for cash fast

But instead...

Landlords do you have problem tenants not paying fast?

Homesellers is your agent not performing?

Do you have no equity in your home but you need to sell?

Is there a divorce and you have no equity?

Did you inherit a house that needs work?

We offer unique solutions that include lease purchase where you can make more money by leasing out the property and getting cashed out on the road

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Wholesaling only model, without doing a cash or terms presentation to the seller, I think is not the best model , especially for rookies

The nice thing about subject to, wraps, and lease options is you only need a willing buyer and willing seller to get the deal to work; no banks, no credit, no Hardmoney or private money, no contractors, and you make the money fast, like in 30 to 60 days.

If you master seller financing, helping the sellers sell on terms, you'll make money faster and when wholesale deal comes by, you can write up the contract and try to sell it, and if you fail, your cash flow still okay.

Your marketing approach is genius! Thanks so 

much for this post.

Post: Can I become a millionaire as a wholesaler?

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Originally posted by @Aaron Mazzrillo:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Wow, so he really made that wholesaling? That's crazy! Did the buyer even make a profit? Lol

The buyer was a Chinese development company. I don't know what their intentions are with the property, but I've been shown a few drawings my friend had and they were of a luxury condo tower. The air rights were needed to get the extra floors. I think it was 60 or so high.

As for your next post you wrote, I bought 8 rentals this year and never stepped foot in a bank. You need to study a little creative financing. Seller carry back is how I got most of my rentals. It's not difficult, but it takes understanding of the numbers involved in holding and managing rentals long term.

Very interesting, thanks again for your post -  were the rentals you acquired single family homes or multifamily apartment buildings? 

Post: Anyone have fresh Ideas on Bandit signs?

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you could put the sign on your car instead! You could also post flyers around town, like in restaurants and grocery stores