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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 8 posts and replied 3607 times.

Post: Stop What You Are Doing, and....

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Oh there's massaging going on.  Just check out the numbers in the Real Estate Marketplace

Post: Service Dogs

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Originally posted by @Matthew Paul:

I just require that the doctor prescribing the ESA be licensed in my state , and that the paperwork they provide from the doctor also include a copy of the doctors current license and it be  notarized .   

 All of which could probably result in a successful lawsuit.  

Post: Does sale price affect assessment value for property tax?

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I am looking at a home selling for $119K. The assessment for 2016 is $81,600. I am wondering if purchasing the home more than $37K above assessment would increase the tax assessment, thus increasing the property tax.

Property taxes are state specific.  If this is in CA then because of Prop 13 properties of the same market value can have drastically different assessments.  You can easily buy a house where the prior owner only paid $500 a year and your purchase will cause a reassessment that can bring your property taxes to $10,000.

Post: Market Cap Rate

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Originally posted by @Brett Britten:

How is it that a cap rate won't tell me when I should consider selling a property? If my cap rate is lower on one of my properties (around 8%), and my rents are close to market rates, that tells me I could sell the property and deploy the capital at another single family home where I could presumably achieve a higher cap rate. Seems pretty simple to me, Bob.

http://www.b2rfinance.com/blog/use-cap-rate-determ...

If you sell all your in demand NOI's (the lower cap rate properties) then you are left with NOI's that have less demand (the higher cap rate properties). How does that make sense? If you want HIGH cap rates, why would you, all you have o do is buy in low demand crappy areas.

You are chasing a number because you do not realize what it actually represents.

The higher the cap rate the LESS the market is willing to pay for the NOI. The market is perceiving that those properties will be more PROFITABLE. Profit is what you should be shopping for.

Your link has the guy saying, "The higher the cap rate, the better the annual rate of return."  The only reason the cap rate is higher is because the purchase price is LOWER!  Why would the market sell for LESS if the annual return is higher???  Think about that.  See, it makes no sense whatsoever.

Post: best cities now for multi-family investment

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Originally posted by @Adam Adams:

Bob, I don't want to argue with you. I know what you are saying. It is smart of you to have been able to connect them for simplicity's sake. You are right for the point YOU are trying to make. I am just a scientific, black and white, thinker and "Cap rate" is simply a formula: It's the price you pay for an asset vs the net anual returns.

If I buy a $2,000,000 home in London, San Fran, or NYC for a great deal of $300,000 and then turn around and get a long term lease on the property for an assisted living facility making $120,000/ net per year... I am still getting a cap rate of 40% regardless of the strong "demand" It's just a cap rate, it's just a number.

I don't connect cap rate to demand any more than I connect a phone call with a relative in the hospital. They are technically independent of each other.

You are saying that demand alters cap rate and I don't care to argue, I am just saying that cap rate is just a formula, its simply the price you pay vs net returns.

Sorry if I got you flustered before,

Adam Adams

1.  I am not arguing with you.  I am trying to educate you.

2.  E=mc2 is also a formula but like a cap rate it represents a much more complicated concept.

3.  You state, "It's the price you pay for an asset vs the net anual returns."  This is incorrect. It is the price paid for NOI. NOI is net operating income.

4.  $2,000,000 homes ANYWHERE are not sold for $300,000 unless grandma owns and you are the only or favorite grandson.

5. If your NOI is $120,000 and you can only sell it for $300,000 at a 40% cap rate then the market is saying the NOI is crap.

6. Since the cap rate is the result of NOI divided by price then since the price paid is the result of market demand then it follows that there is a direct link between cap rate and DEMAND.

Any questions?

Post: Service Dogs

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Originally posted by @Jonathan Godes:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Godes:

  Use your screening criteria to ensure you have an applicant that DOESN'T have a service animal. 

Yeah, you're special!  Do you stand in front of your property yelling, "You veterans, git off my lawn!"?

 I'm sorry, what is it exactly that you think I am saying? Veterans? Do you mean veterinarians? I'm lost.

 https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default....

Sure hope this guy doesn't need a place to live in your town. 

Post: Service Dogs

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Originally posted by @Jonathan Godes:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Godes:

  Use your screening criteria to ensure you have an applicant that DOESN'T have a service animal. 

Yeah, you're special!  Do you stand in front of your property yelling, "You veterans, git off my lawn!"?

 I'm sorry, what is it exactly that you think I am saying? Veterans? Do you mean veterinarians? I'm lost.

 https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default....

Sure hope this guy doesn't need a place to live in your town. 

Post: Market Cap Rate

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No Brett you are the one using cap rates on SFR's not me. I merely used the cap rates that you are incorrectly using on SFR's. You were claiming a cap rate would tell you when to sell. My example shows how that does not work EVEN if the cap rates YOU stated were on commercial properties.

There is no use for cap rates on SFR's period. And if you were using cap rates on commercial properties as you described you are not accomplishing what you think.

Post: Market Cap Rate

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Originally posted by @Brett Britten:
Originally posted by @Michael Le:

I couldn't disagree more. There is absolutely a point to figuring out your cap rate - it can help you decide whether or not you should be selling your SFH. My first two rental home purchases were great CoC/IRR investments, but one could easily argue that I should sell one of those same properties because the cap rate is low (~8%), while the other is doing well (~10.5%).

Cap rate is all about opportunity cost; i.e. can I reallocate capital in a different place to earn a better return.

 Brett you have learned cap rates backwards. 

A cap rate measures the value of a NOI for commercial properties. The MORE demand for the NOI the lower the cap rate.

$10,000 NOI at 5% market cap rate is worth $200,000.

$10,000 NOI at 10% market cap rate is worth $100,000.

Now if both your properties had $10,000 NOI then the one in the 8% market is worth $125,000.

The 10.5% cap rate market the exact same NOI could only get you $95,238!

Now as an investor you need to figure out WHY the market will pay $30,000 MORE for the opportunity to possibly collect the EXACT SAME NOI !!

Any questions?

Post: Hitler tries to rent an apartment in San Francisco

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If he had only held onto his property! 

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hitler+on+sub+...

Strategic foreclosure my *ss!