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All Forum Posts by: Mike G.

Mike G. has started 24 posts and replied 553 times.

Post: MHP Owner Database Build Guide + What software do you use?

Mike G.Posted
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  • Las Vegas, NV
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@Bryce DeCora thank you for the wealth of information, I've never heard of Python software. I am working on that MHU data base as well and trying to maximize my marketing efforts with the info on it, a lot of it is good but some is naturally outdated and with as fast as things change its really challenging for anyone to keep that list up to date. But a great post with good info none the less. 

Post: Mobile Home / Septic Tank Question

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@John White i would get with a plumber familiar with the septic and possibly a city inspection codes for septic and have the guy check it out and see if its up to code during " inspection period" this way your ruffling too many feathers before you make a move but you can get the skinny on the septic system just in case the owner is with holding any info about it. 

Post: How to buy and sell mobile home in Texas?

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@Veronica Vera as Rachel said in most if not all states unless the homes wheels have been taken off, the home affixed to land and the tax structure of the mobile has been changed in county records from a mobile home (title) to a permanently affixed home (title and deed) then yes your essentially selling a piece of paper. 

Post: Is mobile home park investing safe? What is liability risk?

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@Hai Loc your most welcome Hai, what state is your park in. Thats great to hear i am looking for a park right now. And yes from the private utilities aspect of operations they are very similar. Yes the OP was more worried about general liability it appears. 

Post: Is mobile home park investing safe? What is liability risk?

Mike G.Posted
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@Hai Loc

If you own multi family MHP is not much different

not that much different, its all perspective and how you look at things so my response to you will most likely be taken subjectively in nature but at the end of the day mobile home park is different than multifamily investing. You cant hurt the dirt! 

There has always been and will always be a need for affordable housing. The typical mobile home park is just that affordable housing. Decreased Operating Expense: It is typically accepted that the average operating expenses for a mobile home park are usually around 35-40% of the gross income as compared to apartments which have in the 50-60% expense ratio. One of the biggest advantages of mobile home park ownership is not only this decreased operating expense margin but the reasoning behind it. Lower Turnover Ratio: Mobile Home Parks in which you rent the land to the home owners have a much lower turnover ratio as compared to apartments. In most cases, once the home is moved into your park, that home will stay in there for 25+ years and when people are ready to move they will just resell the home in the park and you will have a new homeowner. The biggest reason for the low home turnover is that it costs so much to break down, move, and set up a home. In most cases this is going to cost at a minimum of $2,000 for a “singlewide” and $4,000 for a “doublewide“. Lower Move-Out Ratio: In an apartment, your renters can pack up and leave in the middle of the night. In most cases a mobile home will not move out in the middle of the night (especially legally). There are those cases where someone will hire someone to come in and move a home in the middle of the night but it is rare. I actually had someone who was a few months late on rent, decide to hook up to their 14 x 70 home with their ¾ ton pickup in an attempt to move it down the road a few miles to a different park. They made it out of the park with the home but about a mile down the road the mobile home separated from the truck and they not only flipped the home but destroyed a truck. All of this to avoid about $800 in lot rent. Rent Increases: When you raise the rent by $10, $15, $20 or more in a mobile home park, it is less justifiable for a renter to spend several thousand dollars to move their home to save $10 or $20 per month. In addition there is no guarantee that the mobile home park that they move their home to will not follow suit with a rent increase of their own. Lower Operating Expense Ratio: Another reason for the lower operating expense ratio for mobile home parks is that you are not responsible for painting, cleaning carpets, fixing windows, and all the fun jobs of the apartment maintenance personnel. You are typically only responsible up to where the home connects to your utilities and the maintenance of the common areas. Depreciation: As far as depreciation, apartments have a large value attributable to the building itself and the building portion is generally required to be depreciated over 27.5 years However, for mobile home parks, the depreciable costs are typically the roads, water lines, sewer lines, electric poles and so on. These are considered land improvements and are typically depreciated over a period of 15 years. This increased depreciation over the first 15 years is a major tax benefit for many investors. Barriers For Entry Competition: Another hidden benefit of mobile home parks are the barriers to entry for competition. In most areas of the country, it is difficult to get the proper zoning, meet all the requirements to build a new community and actually make a profit. Face it, once you get all the permits and licenses and have the curbs, roads, driveways, utilities, pads and everything else built out, you will have a carrying cost until you actually get enough homes into the project to break even, let alone start making a profit. Mobile Home Parks are in limited supply and the barriers to entry as far as costs, regulations and government restrictions make developing new parks unfeasible in most areas. State and local governments restrict new mobile home park developments for many reasons, including: bad reputation, existing owners allowing parks to deteriorate, less property tax base to fund schools, police, fire, and other government services. Most Individuals Own Their Home: Another benefit of mobile home parks is that in most cases you have individuals that own their own homes and will tend to take care of the home as well as their lot. Since you are renting basically the land and the utility connections, there is not near as many things that your renters can do to cost you major repairs. Sure they may flush things down the sewer and let the water run, but they will not be putting holes in the walls and floors or spilling things on the carpet as they will in your apartment rentals. You rent the land and do not have to fix leaky kitchen faucets or toilets. Good Position To Buy And Sell: Another benefit of owning mobile home parks is that you are often in a good position to buy and sell new and used mobile homes. You can often buy homes that people sell in your park, in nearby parks, repos, or even new homes from the manufacturers and place them in your park and sell them at a profit. Depending on the situation, you may be able to sell them for cash, on terms, or with new financing. As the park owner, every time you sell a home and fill a vacant lot in your park you have just increased the monthly lot rent income as well as the value of the park. *If each occupied lot is worth an additional $10,000 then in addition to the profit from the home sale itself you have just made an extra 10k in equity!* A mobile home dealer makes money on the spread between the purchase and sale price and thus needs to have good profit margin to stay in business. As the park owner you can live on a much smaller or even a break even on the home sales and thus save your buyers thousands of dollars. I hope that helps

Post: Family of 2, currently Active Duty Military

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@Chavis Kendrick If your fiancé isn’t in to real estate or doesn’t see the benefit of it then you have a much larger fundamental problem then what type of real estate to purchase at your next duty station. I would tackle that one first and if she isn’t on board then find a new fiancé.

Post: Is mobile home park investing safe? What is liability risk?

Mike G.Posted
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@Richard Michael No your definitely getting your moneys worth with MHU. I guarantee it.

Post: Is mobile home park investing safe? What is liability risk?

Mike G.Posted
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  • Las Vegas, NV
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@Richard Michael 

@Mike G. I was looking at MHU, it is interesting to hear your take on the boot camp. I tend to be a little leery the gurus and usually the route of self teaching. Do you feel fully prepared to make a MHP investment after attending?

yes i absolutely do feel more competent and confident in pursuing a mobile home park over any other asset class that exists in the REI spectrum and there are many. I hope that helps you out in making a decision.

Another way to think of it is this and i used to be this way but i learned the value of time is far more important of a commodity than money is or ever will be. to learn it on your own could take years, decades even and to learn it from someone who has already blazed a trail and has all the answers to any scenario that you could possibly encounter and cut your learning curve time down by years. . . . . . don't you think that's worth a few grand?

So let me ask you this, other than classifying the MHU guys as " guru's" is there any other reason that you wouldn't move forward and get the boot-camp and their books?

Post: Suggestions for learning the fix & flip business

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@Jonathan C. 

Best to learn from another investor.

To do that, offer them something:

a- hang lock boxes on properties you're going to be rehabbing

b- do other random errands at properties as you need them

c- give you a 0% loan of XXX amount

d- go hang 'we buy houses' signs for you

e- bring you a deal and just ask for a small wholesale fee or no fee

Then tell them all you want in return is to ask them a couple of questions and tag along from time to time while they're visiting properties that they're evaluating and/or rehabbing. Hopefully can get to know them well enough where you can joint venture on your first rehab- that's when you'll learn the most. Then after a couple of those you'll be ready.

great content and ideas of what to do to get in front of a rehab guy and get some real world hands on.

Post: Evaluating mobile home park

Mike G.Posted
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@John Hovanec yes be worried about the park owned homes from the 1970's as you can t cap that income towards the parks NOI. Id venture to guess that mh from the 70's are not worth jack squat and will need lots of up keep. Does the seller have the lot rent and the rent he charges for the mobile home separated on two different spread sheets?

You cannot buy am MHP and include the park owned units into the valuation of the park. For far more detailed explanation why look up "valuation of park owned homes" on google and zoom in on the mobilehomeuniversity.com site and read what Frank Rolfe has to say about this topic and you will thank me in the morning.