All Forum Posts by: Mike McKinzie

Our constitution lays out a "Democratic Republic" and specifically states what services the Federal Government is to provide. Why do people want to keep ADDING to that?

My opinion is that there are NO basic human services. There are basic human RIGHTS, such a Life, Liberty and the right to pursue my dreams. There are basic human RESPONSIBILITIES, ie. being a parent. There are ethics, morals and consequences. One way to measure it is if I don't want it done to me, then I should not do it to anyone else.

I pay Federal Taxes, thus I have military protection from foreign and domestic invaders. I pay state taxes and have police, fire and other state provided services. I pay Property Tax and have municipal services such as water, sewer, trash, snow plowing, etc... But when my Federal dollar goes to someone who doesn't want to work, I have a problem with it. When my state dollar is used to provide medical services to an illegal alien, I have a problem with it. When my local dollar goes to provide public transportation to high income people, I have a problem with it.

My basic philosophy is, "If you want it, pay for it."

When people say things like, "Society should provide.......", what they are really saying is to take from those who work and give to those who don't want to work.

I know and understand the arguments from the other side, such as, "You got rich because our capitalistic structure allowed you to become an entrepreuner, thus you OWE society." or "You got lucky, thus you need to help those who are unlucky" or "People can't help their downtrodden situation".

An example from my grandparents. My mother's parents were Migrant Farm Workers who moved to California during the Dust Bowl to pick fruits and nuts around the Fresno Area. My mother's playground was the shade under an old, Conestoga Wagon. When my grandfather died, there were six Cadillacs behind the hearse, owned by each of the six children. All six made it six different ways. One started a Moving Company, one was a Realtor, one was a police officer, etc.... None of them, EVER, got any government assistance in the way of Welfare, Health Care, Food Stamps, FDIC, etc...

Basic Human Services? IMHO, they do not exist!

Slow Down there J Scott. I never said that we don't need health care reform. I said we don't need socialized medicine. To me, the Health Care industry is a MONOPOLY and gouges people when they are at their most vulnerable.

You asked me why I felt Medicare sucked so I gave an example. Just another example of how the government will RUN things. The government should MONITOR things, but not RUN them.

The Health Care Industry has a myriad of players in it, and a lot of unregulated sections. It needs to be fixed, and I believe our debate is over HOW.

I am in California right now, taking care of my parents, dad has advanced Alzheimers and mom has Lung Cancer. Medicare is like that miniature spare tire that most cars carry now. Sure, the car can keep going, but at a much lowered performance. My mother's next prescription 'co-pay' is going to be $5,235 FOR ONE BOTTLE OF PILLS. She has reached something called "the doughnut hole." We are going to have to put dad in some kind of "assisted living" and Medicare is going to pay ZERO of it.

Luckily, my parents real estate investments are going to be able to pay for all this, but my experience with Medicare is HANDS ON, DAILY right now, and it SUCKS.

Thus my belief, both of my parents, who were born into very, VERY poor families, can earn, save and invest for their own Health Insurance and Health Care and not look to the government to do it for them. Everyone else should too. I can give example after example of people who had ordinary jobs yet retired very wealthy. One of my uncles was a cop his entire life, when he died, he owned 16 rental properties, free and clear.

Everyone, no matter what job they have, should take care of their own business and not expect the government to provide health services.

I also have other, much deeper, inside information about Medicare which I am not allowed to disclose. Let's just say that Enron looked good to a lot of people, for a long time!!! So did Bernie Madoff!!! You can fool some of the people all of the time or all of the people some of the time! But some of us look deeper at a situation!

...and among these are LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS...

The unborn child has the RIGHT TO LIFE, not the RIGHT to an education or welfare or health care.

J Scott, everyone on here knows how futile it is to debate you, but we still do, it fills in a boring evening.

J Scott, your words, "all children deserve health care". I disagree. NO ONE deserves health care. We can agree to disagree on that, and that is what makes American great.

When a person goes to Medical School, Nursing School or some other health care field, they plan on working in the PRIVATE SECTOR, not for some government agency.

Health Care is just another service in the private sector for people to chose to buy or not. Why should it be a RIGHT? Because some bleeding heart liberals say so? I think they are WRONG. The government already supplies welfare, education from K to 12, food stamps, Section 8 Housing, discounted or free public transportation, and on and on. WHERE DOES IT STOP? Once the camel got it's nose in the tent, it just kept on coming in, and we get SOCIALISM. The government keeps inventing ways to NOT get people to work.

So your statement about "every child deserves health care" is just another way of saying "MOMMY, TAKE CARE OF ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF MYSELF!"

Medicare SUCKS, and big time. So does VA Health Benefits. They are run at about the same level as "Public Housing." If you saw "American Gangster", you saw that over half the police were on the take for drug money. IF you could keep everyone in power HONEST and TRUSTWORTHY, then I might reconsider.

Here is an article about the efficiency of National Health Care,

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.html

I find it ironic that Liberals love to list the "5,000 lives wasted in Iraq." To me, a soldier's life is NEVER wasted.

You want to see REAL WASTED LIFES, look at ABORTION. Yes, the woman has the right to do what they want with their body and the unborn child has the RIGHT to do what they want with their body. The woman did what she wanted, had sex, and became pregnant (incest, rape and unintentional pregnancies account for less than 1 percent of 1 percent of 1 percent of 1 percent of abortions). Now that there are two people, the mother and child, involved, BOTH of them have EQUAL RIGHTS.

In some states, the punishment for Suicide is Capital Punishment. Go figure!!!! YOU DIDN'T SUCCEED IN KILLING YOURSELF SO LET US DO IT FOR YOU!

If people are in their right state of mind and want to die, they should have that choice. But that is the GRAY AREA. Would anyone in their right state of mind want to die? Most are depressed, in pain from disease or injury, or some other catastrophic situation that takes them OUT of their right state of mind.

We can debate this, but the person who is dead, is dead, end of report. The quality of life can be debated until the cows not only come home, but go to bed.

All jesting aside, I NEVER felt my FREE SPEECH was limited under President George W. Bush.

J Scott, we do not always agree with George W Bush nor do we always oppose Barack Hussein Obama, therefore, you need to quit your "all or nothing" approach to arguing for or against either one.

Here is an example of the idiocy of the LOONEY LEFT. Barack H Obama states in an interview that marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman, and he gets elected president. The winner of Miss California states that marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman and she gets CRUCIFIED for it. Where is the 'equal treatment by the media' in that? The media is licking Obama's Piles and anything he does is OK. That is the problem that those on the Right have, the "Freedom of the Press" does not mean the Press is to take sides in public discourse, they are just to report on it. Why do you think Right Wing Radio has such high ratings? Because mainstream media Is LEFT WING based. Except for Fox, you can't find unbiased news reporting. Even those on the LEFT accuse Fox of being Right Wing when all Fox does is report the news.

We, those on the right, do not like big government. Obama believes government is the answer to societies ills. That is the basic difference.

J Scott, if you believe that government is the answer to our problems, I would love to see your reasoning behind it. As I have stated before, Government should be the "cop on the street" and not tell me what or where to drive.

I will even give some more praise for Obama, he wears nice suits! Problem is, I bought it for him.

The Lib/Dems are so hard pressed to find anything good, they have to go to Obama's speeches and his 'free speech' attitude. By the way, how about FREE SPEECH at the Congress peoples "town halls" about health care??