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All Forum Posts by: Jake Van Vorhis

Jake Van Vorhis has started 8 posts and replied 67 times.

Post: Investor in San Francisco Bay Area

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

Welcome to the site! 

I've found a lot here.

Quite an exciting city to be investing in.  Hope to see you around!

Post: SF/SOMA Agent Needed

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

I am an agent who is familiar with the area. Feel free to call or email me any time. What do you have going on? 

Post: New member introduction

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

I'm going to respond about a looming bust and unsustainable growth in San Francisco.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-06-22/ny...

SF to New York is a common comparison, and while it isn't exact, it sheds a lot of light on what is possible in the future.  The population of New York is about 8.5 million, and San Francisco's is about 850k, which is literally one tenth.  NYC according to the census is 305 sq miles, and SF is 49 sq miles.  I would expect the population density to equal before any large market "bust" occurs, and that means an extra 10k people in SF per square mile, or 490k total, or an extra half of the entire population.  Where will all of that housing come from?  My answer: the surrounding bay area in combination with new development.  I know it's difficult to see for many who don't live here, but for those that do, take a look as all of the 2 and 3 story small to mid-size buildings are acquired by national developers and torn down for 10-12 story luxury condo complexes.  Look at the Lumina building, retailing condos at $3k per square foot in many of the units.  The city just increased the height limit of buildings for a reason.

In addition, I think it's a mistake to only look at San Francisco and the Bay Area/Silicon Valley down south (if you are one of the people who separate them) as a region solely in Northern California, or California, or the West Coast, or the United States for that matter.  We're at a level today, with globalization as it is, that SF is considered one of the luxury real estate capitals of the world, but it is so much cheaper, still than so many other of the luxury cities in the international marketplace.  I don't need to post links to articles talking about how expensive Paris, London, Shanghai, and Hong Kong are.  Look at how many buyers are coming from back East right now.  This is cheap real estate compared to those luxury markets!  Do I think the level of growth we are seeing can be expected to continue infinitely? No. Do I think there is a lot of growth left to be had based on the international market? Of course.

Even further, according to a report from the SF Association of Realtors, 73.7% of residents have white collar jobs, 81.1% have attended at lease some college (with 36.8% Bachelor's degrees and 23.1% graduate degrees), average household income $105k, average household net worth $1.08 million and all of that with a median home sales price of $724k.  How many other cities have those demographics with more company founders and executives moving in every day?  Those people have to live somewhere... and I don't know many millionaire households that prefer renting to owning... http://www.sfrealtors.com/US/Neighborhood/CA/San-F...

I could go on and on... How many other cities in the world right now are in practically every other movie hitting the theaters?  Supply drives demand and vice versa.  Demand is way up and supply is down, hence a rise in prices.  I don't see demand slowing down quickly any time soon, so I don't see the reason for the fuss about an ominous drop in prices.  

I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but I for one see a lot of upside left in this market, and I plan to stick around for it, despite the naysayers.

Welcome to the site! Lots to learn for everybody!

Post: Two High-End Luxury Wholesaled Flip Opportunities for San Francisco

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

I have an investment group I am working with (I am not an owner) that is willing to wholesale rather than remodel/rehab/reconstruct two properties for the right price.  

For both, the architecture and plans were completed by John Lum. He has a large following in San Francisco and the entire SF Bay Area. http://johnlumarchitecture.com

The first: $3,090,000 wholesale

Located on 19th St, in Eureka Valley, San Francisco, is currently getting permitted with plans submitted (in the 311 public approval process right now) for remodeling. John Lum’s most recent house with this group was https://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Francisco/553-Elizabeth-St-94114/home/717821 which holds the record for most expensive house price per square foot in Noe Valley at $1570/sqft at $7 million for 4,456 sqft, 5 beds, 7 baths. This house will be very similar, and includes an all glass penthouse on the top floor with a Jacuzzi and fire table. It should be 5 beds and 3 baths around 4200 sqft, 4 stories. There's nothing to say this couldn't be the most expensive home price per square foot ever sold in Eureka Valley, too.  Running comps on these homes don't do them justice because there are few that compare.

The second: $2,060,000 wholesale

Located on Cesar Chavez St, La Lengua, San Francisco which when completed will be a 4,800 sq ft duplex. One unit will be 2,800 sq ft with at least a 4 bed / 2 bath. The other will be 2,000 sq ft with most likely a 3 bed / 2 bath. The investor says that resale on the duplex being built is $3.8 million based on today's value (excluding the potential for appreciation once completed), and the value would be even more if both units were converted into TIC, as those are selling so hot in the area right now, which is what I would recommend, personally. They are about done with slight renovation on the house to make it fit to rent on Air BnB while the permit process is finished. 4,700 sqft lot. The plans are completed (also John Lum) and the permits are about 8-9 months out from acceptance, so there is time for Air BnB cash flow.

Both neighborhoods are filling with tech homeowners right now, along with Bernal Heights, the Mission, and Noe Valley.  They are close to highways 280 and 101, plenty of public transportation (Muni trains, buses and Bart), and the tech buses all come through the neighborhoods there.  Not to mention the hills make for great views.

These are not cheap deals, by any means, but they are still worth a shot.

Please message me if seriously interested in either and funds for purchase are available.

Post: So newbie thinks he found a deal...

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

Good luck on your deal. Partnering with somebody else is always great when you're starting out! 

Post: Newbie in San Francisco, investing in Pinellas County, FL

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

Welcome! Good luck to you from a fellow San Franciscan!

Post: Looking for agents input for finders fees

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

I would recommend just paying a fair commission for the work they do for you - not a finder's fee.  Finding deals in my market (SF bay area) isn't easy at all, but I am an agent and will happily help an investor who understands the business and negotiates fairly. That way, everybody wins.

Post: How to Determine Rental Prices?

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

I'd recommend asking a local Realtor. They should have a good idea to start with just knowing the values of the market. 

Post: Best zip codes for Sacramento!

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

Elk Grove is great! 95758 and 95757 have great schools, great parks, relatively low crime, and a college just on the edge (Cosumnes River College) which means plenty of tenants in need of housing.

Post: Just now exploring investing

Jake Van VorhisPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 16

Check out the podcasts too. I have lots of love for those and they can be listened to in the gym, car, wherever!

Welcome to the site!