All Forum Posts by: Justin Putt
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Post: Cash Out Refi in MI

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Thanks for the advice Ben, seems like going with a local bank might be my best route right now until I have more time being self emplyoed. I am hoping it works out with the current bank I am looking at, but if it does not I will defintely look at contacting more banks to see what they can do for me.
Also, I did not know you could use a commercial loan for a residential property. Is this something that I could look into with having a new business? Can you use commercial loans for refis?
Originally posted by "Investment Loans":
As John pointed out, brick/mortar banks that offer portfolio loans may be the way to go. One additional point on that, commercial loans can still be made to residential 1-4 unit properties. You'd be getting a loan in the business name with much of the evalutions focused on the property.
My recommendation is to open up the yellow pages to the banking pages. Just start making calls to the commercial or business bankers (not retail loan officers). Explain your goals and they would be able to tell you whether this is something they do on a regular basis. Just keep checking off down your list of banks and I'm sure you'll be able to find several to go meet and build a relationship with.
I looked through all your information again and clearly you'll need a no doc loan as you expected. Have you thought about possibly just wholesaling some of your deals out? This would still get you cash needed so that properties you plan to hold can just be rate/term refinances of the purchase loan.
Post: Cash Out Refi in MI

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Hello Scott, I guess I do not understand why you are saying that you "tried to explain this to me." I thought I was pretty clear that I did understand and I appreciated it. I defintely know how bad the lending market is right now and how worse it might get in the future. I only was looking for answers from professionals in the lending market for my possible scenario. I apologize if you thought I was not listening to your advice as I do appreciate it along with everyone elses.
Doing a cash out refinance on my properties will be just one of my exit strategies. I will be marketing my properties to other buy and hold investors at a discount. I hope to keep at least half of the ones I rehab for my portfolio and the others will be sold off.
Thanks again for your help Scott and everyone else.
Originally posted by "EZLoanz":
I tried to explain this to you last week---it's difficult to forecast where guidelines will be in the future so what I tell you today, probably want be so in the future...
Expect low/no doc lending to continue to detoriate along with high LTV/low FICO and or high LTV/NOO financing.
If you are going to buy and hold, you might be better served to evaluating future deals on the worst possible scenario like:
- A lower LTV allowance for cash out refinances for investors
- The likelihood that you will only qualify for a rate and term refinance to get you out of your HML.
- The need to sell the property instead of holding it (in case you don't qualify for either circumstance listed above).
- The need to postpone your capital investment/profit capture until you sell the property (or the lending enviroment improves).
It's more important then ever to make your money on the buy---getting a positive cash flow every month and cashing out when you sell is still a viable business model for the days to come for buy & hold investors.
Because I'm familar with your background/history, I have some ideas on how to maximize your profits that I'll send to you personally.
Regards,
Scott Miller
Originally posted by "japutt":
Post: Cash Out Refi in MI

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I apologize, I realize why you were talking about commercial loans. I never specified residential or commercial. Yes, I am looking at residential not commercial properties. And I am pretty familiar with the fact that commercial lenders have different guidelines, even though I have never crossed the line from residential to commercial yet.
Thanks for the clarification on the defintion of a "portfolio loan." Sounds exactly what I am looking to do. I will defintely email or pm you if I have any other questions.
Scott- I do know that I will have to expect a lower LTV, would like to stay at 75% or higher if possible though. I do plan on buying very cheap, so that will be a plus.
Post: Cash Out Refi in MI

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Hey John, I appreciate your response along with everyone elses. Can you be more specific with "commercial lenders" and "local bank's commercial department." I am speaking of doing multi-unit residential properties.
I have found a local bank that I believe can help me out with both the rehab and then do a cash out refi for me after the rehab is done. He was explaining this as a "portfolio" loan. Not really sure what he meant by this. Maybe they will lend to me for holding my portfolio with them. He did say that I would have to stick with SFRs and Duplexes as it is very hard to do 3 and 4 units right now.
Post: Cash Out Refi in MI

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I am looking to rehab several multi unit residential properties over the next year, and instead of focusing on selling them, I plan on refinancing them, pulling out some of the equity and keeping them as rentals. These properties will primarily be in Michigan and some in Indiana.
I need someone that would be able to take care of this refi for me on a regular basis.
Probably will have to be no doc as I am self employed(less than 2 years) and be able to pull cash out, preferably up to 80%LTV. I currently own 6 properties already including my own residence and have a 700+ credit score.
If anyone can help me out please let me know.
Post: Quit Claim deeds info

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Not to go off topic or anything, but would you do a Quit Claim if I wanted to put my rental properties in my LLC instead of my name? Is this very hard to do?
Post: Rental Property Investment

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They can, and that is how I see it. I think Mike is just saying that in his case and if someone were to choose to do so, he basically doubles his cash flow by doing management and maintenance himself.
However, if you can make $100 an hour or more doing other ventures or another job, it would make sense for you to do hire these jobs out.
Some people can't or would prefer not to do these things themselves. However if they choose to take on these jobs themselves they will be able to make more cash flow.
Post: Rental Property Investment

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Originally posted by "kpm.austin":
Welcome to the forums, please update your profile and let us know where you are located and any info about yourself.
Thanks!
I have heard mixed things about this. I always thought you were not able to, because banks will not allow assignable contracts. One way I heard you can do it is by adding their name to the contract somehow. Not sure how this works though, would be interested to know.
Post: What happens if my lender goes bankrupt?

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It startled me a little too, because all of my loans including my primary residence is through countrywide. Countrywide seems to be buying up as many loans as possible. Not sure if they will be doing so anymore though.
The fed decrease defintely is going to help the market, I know the dow is already up.