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All Forum Posts by: Jason G.

Jason G. has started 1 posts and replied 428 times.

Post: Would You Consider Your "Network" your ultimate key to success?

Jason G.
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Originally posted by @Leon Taylor:

In general business/ life, Would You consider your "network" to be your ultimate gateway to success or a college degree?

Do you need a college degree to be successful?  No, but if utilized right it makes it easier.  It can open up doors to high paying employment, it can allow for connections with your fellow students who may be future business owners, business partners, investors, high income earners, or the source of additional networking connections.  If you have a realistic plan to success without obtaining a college degree I understand that, but when someone just wants to skip college and has no idea what they are going to do, that can be a recipe for disaster.  There are also other ways to network, from becoming involved with non-profits, associations, meetups, houses of worship, etc.   And don't discount the power of obtaining that credential when it comes to others looking at you differently.  When many people hear someone has a college degree or an advanced degree, even more so from certain institutions, they automatically instill in them a lot of preconceived qualities that may or may not be justified.   

Post: Roofstock Case Study

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Originally posted by @Kevin Charles:
Originally posted by @Jason Pennacchio:

@Jason G. makes another great point, you're paying a slight premium at times to have pre-vetted, pre-inspected (although at times questionable inspections), pre-researched homes. When I switched from roofstock to a property manager/agent I had one inspection come back horrendous and you have to really think in a tight margin environment how many times can you afford to spend $300-$400 just to find a home is not doable. Unfortunately the way to get around this as an out-of-state investor is to have a property manager do a walkthrough who is knowledgeable in eyeballing major issues, (structure, roof, hvac, electrical) so you can have a general idea as to whether to continue on to the inspection or run the other way. I bid on a home which the agent visited and said don't even bother, unless the seller wants to drop 20% of their asking or so off the bat. (ALWAYS have a due diligence clause), (most sellers know what shape their property is in and most likely won't come down in a competitive market unless they're old listings or repeatedly failing inspections).

@Kevin Charles I think you have the right idea but I will say this to you in no offensive manner, "you and everybody else". Roofstock definitely gives you an idea what's going on but any homes that look like a deal are being viewed by hundreds/thousands (assuming). To get an edge and find a true deal you're going to have to put some sweat-equity into researching homes more in depth and run your own numbers/analysis. When YOU see it as a deal and Roofstock doesn't give that impression you're more likely to get a good price. (Ex. Roofstock has a home listed as "2 star", 5% cap, ok neighborhood, but ur personal research reveals its actually 3 star, 7 cap, good neighborhood). I personally will reiterate the need to know the market where you're looking. Using general filter isn't good enough, you need to learn the neighborhoods and even streets if you can so you know what you're bidding on. You can do this from out-of-state with some extra effort, lots of it.

Couldn’t agree with you more @Jason Pennacchio. Thanks for the message and advice. There definitely are deals that are gone within a day. You also have to do your own due diligence because sometimes the numbers Roofstock uses may not be accurate and that 8 cap is really a 6. I guess my question for you and  @Jason Ginesis is more if do you wait patiently for those houses that fit that ideal criteria and make an offer immediately, focus on finding the coals that really are diamonds like the 2 star 5 caps that are really 3 star 7 caps as you mention, or focus on higher risk for higher returns? 

Every market is different and you have to know the market. What your long term investment strategy is also is very relevant. With the Atlanta Metro Market for SFH I'm looking at areas where there is appreciation in property value and rent and where I can cash flow 100-300 a month after all expenses with the intention of keeping that property until the day I keel over and die. So over time rent will increase and as should cash flow and over even more time mortgages will pay themselves off and cash flow will skyrocket and maybe with the appreciation I could sell a few to pay off others. Right now we are just in savings mode to purchase our next investment, hopefully later this year or early next. It takes time to save the down payments and in the mean time I am on sites like Roofstock and Zillow every day saving properties that would interest me so I can keep track of current price trends. We aren't sure right now if we want to pick up another SFH, duplex, or go bigger with a quad. Each having their pros and cons and different analysis. Everyone's number analysis should be tailored to their own needs. If the numbers aren't working then you might have to look at different markets. After you've bought a few properties in a market though you should know your numbers. You should know how much YOUR PM charges you (not a guestimate Roofstock or someone else is giving you), you should know approximately what YOUR insurance carrier will charge you for a premium, and you will know how much YOU plan on putting towards reserves. Just remember none of this is a get rich quick endeavor and will take many many years of slowly building a portfolio. If you want more bang for your buck you can always buy distressed properties and fix them up yourself. But if you are buying properties in very good shape in decent neighborhoods in hot markets your margins are going to likely be tight.

Post: Using HELOC as a downpayment - how should I look at my returns?

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Originally posted by @Josh Shneyderov:

I'm getting ready to buy my first place, a 2-flat, and I'm curious how I should look at my cashflows since I'm using a HELOC from my primary residence as a downpayment. If my CF on a monthly basis is enough to exactly cover my monthly HELOC payment this still seems like a victory to me since I"m not actually putting any money into the property. However, do I look at this as a 0% return since I'm not actually putting any money into my pocket? Should I be looking at the HELOC payment as a monthly expense and include that in my NOI calculation?

It is a monthly expense.  If you are not cash flowing after that expense I would re-evaluate the purchase.  Don't forget that HELOCs are adjustable rate and that rate typically goes in one direction over time.  Insurance and taxes generally go up with time as well, so just be careful with the numbers.  If the property you are purchasing isn't in a market where rents are expected to rise you may end up in the red in a few years very easily.  

Post: ROOFSTOCK non traditional buying and selling properties?????

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Originally posted by @Coral Downey:

Hi fellow members,

Just discovered Roofstock website yesterday via Marketplace here.  Buying properties non traditional method.  I love that investors that wish to buy and hold are able to purchase occupied properties.   Also flippers are able to sell to Roofstock.   The process of buying and selling from RS seems much easier ?   Just have to deal with buying property unseen.    Little uneasy about that.  Earnest money returned but lose their upfront marketplace fee ($500 or bit more ) if you don’t close.  Has anyone worked with Roofstock or aware of them.  If so, what are the pros and cons?  Would love to hear your feedback.  Thanks

 Do a search here on bigger pockets and you will see quite a few threads from buyers discussing their experiences.  I have one myself where i discuss four properties ive purchased through them.  

Post: Looking for some advice

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Originally posted by @Morgan McConnell:

Hey guys. I'm looking for some advice. I have been reading about real estate investing for the past ~6 months and I really want to jump in within the next year. My wife and I currently have about 60k debt (mostly car notes and some credit cards, not including our primary home) and not much saved (we've been aggressively paying it off). I'm expecting a 20-25k bonus later this year and I would like to use that to get into flipping to pay off our debt and then build up some capital so that I can get into doing BRRR's. My wife is totally against investing the money and thinks we should pay off all of our debt (minus the house) before investing. I think that through flipping, I'll be able to get us out of debt fast and achieve financial independence a lot sooner. Do you guys have any advice on how to put her mind at ease? Or I should I go with her advice and get out of debt first?

Three suggestions. 1. There is no rush. 2. Strive to live below your means. 3. Educate yourself before jumping in. Personally I'm of the mindset your wife has. After taxes I'm not sure how much mileage you think your 20-25k bonus is going to get you, but it is likely much less than you think, but if I was in your shoes I would use it to clear out any credit card debt first. If you are able to make your normal car payments on a monthly basis, I wouldn't be too concerned about paying it down unless it impacts your DTI to the point that you cannot get financing for investment properties. I'd then take whatever remains of the bonus and put it aside for your first investment. Aside from that, focus on one investment vehicle at a time, whether that be flipping or buy and hold and educate yourself before jumping in. Reduce your monthly expenses and save money. There is typically no reason to have 60k in auto loans or carrying credit card balances month to month, but if this is what is happening then address that first. Remember that there is no rush. Save until you have enough to safely begin investing, whether it is flipping, buy and hold, or something else.

Post: Has anyone invested through Roofstock.com?

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Originally posted by @Ken Maddis:

I  joined Roofstock last August as a newbie looking for my first property. 

I saw a property in Jackson Ms that they rated as a 4/5 star neighborhood priced at $80,000. When I researched that property I found another next door on the MLS, called a realtor and made an offer on it for $32,000 and won.

Through my conversations with the realtor, inspector, and PM (I called the Roofstock preferred PM), they all were all calling it more of a C class property with low property values, poor schools, and low rents, compared to some other better neighborhoods. I subsequently bailed out of it for those reasons, and also after the inspection revealed far more tenant and owner damage and neglect than I was willing to deal with on my first property. Though it was not a Roofstock property, it supported what the realtor, etc was telling me.

Based on what I learned from my own research, I would give the Roofstock rated 4/5 star neighborhood no more than a 2-1/2 star rating.

The other thing that I wasn't comfortable with is their quoted insurance rates were quite substantially different than what I found from my own research. My guess is they are quoting actual cash value policies (ACV) and I was looking for replacement cost, which is always higher. And lastly, it seemed the capex rates they use is 6%, which for me is low. I use 12% for all of my own projections.

I think Roofstock is doing a great job overall and if I found the right property I would no doubt use their platform, but my point is be sure to do your own research and vetting on the homes and neighborhoods, and try to use your own #'s when determining cash flows, etc.

 I've purchased several properties through Roofstock and I'm not a fan of their neighborhood rating.  I think it is one of the weakest aspects of their platform.  They should either chuck it or revamp how they review the areas.  I never trusted those ratings and would do my own research before moving forward on making an offer on a property.  

Post: Using Roofstock to finance rental property

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Originally posted by @Vincent Finn:

@Rex Celle Good insight. Thanks!

 Do a search here on biggerpockets.  There are quite a few threads now sharing positive and negative experiences using Roofstock.

Post: Roofstock Case Study

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Originally posted by @Chris Scott:

@Jason Pennacchio Your earlier comment is an issue I have been thinking a lot about as I look through the roofstock offerings. Whenever I look at comps in the area on Zillow and Realtor.com, most of the Roofstock properties appear to be very overpriced. Seems like the sellers and buyers would be running the risk of the appraisal coming in low. 

Wondering if I should be making low ball offers that reflect what I find when researching comps. @Jason G. maybe you have input on this as a Roofstock buyer?

A few personal observations. I have purchased one SFH outside of Rootstock utilizing my PM to find a pre listing and got a very good deal. I wasn't able to replicate it after. I kept finding what looked like great properties but they would repeatedly fail inspection and require tens of thousands of more in work and the sellers wouldn't go down or go down enough The really good ones would be scooped up very quickly after listing by cash investors or bid up from their attractive list price. The Roofstock prices are negotiable and the properties, while not turnkey, are typically in very good shape. If you are flushed with cash, have experience in being able to eyeball issues with homes just by doing a walkthrough yourself, and are local to the market then using Roofstock isnt the best way to go. But remember, no one is being forced to use Roofstock. Get a local agent to the market and start hunting for properties and decide for yourself if the perceived premium you are paying using Roofstock is worth it or not.

Post: Is there way too much encouragement of no money down investing?

Jason G.
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Originally posted by @James Wise:

I constantly see new posts from members saying things like

  • Got a sweet deal, but no money. What do I do?
  • How do I find private money?
  • How do I fund my deal if I have bad credit & no income etc?
  • I want to get started but have no money, What do I do?
  • I want to flip houses but I don't have any money. What do I do?

Do you think that there is way too much encouragement and content out there that promotes no money down investing? I find the majority of the no money down content to be very unrealistic.

Thoughts?

For the most part, I view the no money down crowd as individuals who are pursuing a get rich quick scheme and haven't done the necessary research to understand the complexity, effort, knowledge base, and need for time involved to build wealth through REI.

Post: Roofstock review. NEWBIES BEWARE!!

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Originally posted by :

What do you mean by "with respect to the PSA, a buyer CAN insist the disclosure are fully filled out"? I wasn't aware it was an option. By the way, why would any buyer want to insist that if given an option? 

What does OP stand for?

OP = Original Poster. Of course you can insist it is filled out. If the seller refuses you can walk away. On a deal with Roofstock that ultimately fell through I had Roofstock send the disclosures back to the seller several times until every question was responded to, which ultimately led to the revelation of prior water intrusion into the basement that they had claimed to have resolved. If you are looking at listings on MLS you can ask your agent to request the seller disclosures before putting in an offer. Even if the seller is an investor they should know what their own inspections have found and what kind of work they did on the property. If it is an estate sale then it would be more understandable if the seller has no idea what the condition of the property is.