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All Forum Posts by: Jason G.

Jason G. has started 1 posts and replied 428 times.

Post: Roofstock Case Study

Jason G.
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Originally posted by @Vidit S.:

@Jason G. curious if there is a reason you are not creating an LLC to buy your remote investments or I got that wrong? Does it not put your personal assets at risk if one of your tenants sues you?

I wouldn't be able to obtain conventional financing, the interest rates would be higher, the insurance would be higher, and a lot of people do not maintain their entity correctly to ensure there is no personal exposure though the LLC. I use a 2m umbrella policy.

Post: Roofstock Case Study

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Originally posted by @Simcha Davidman:

@Jason G. thank you so much! The Canton one must be a bit disappointing for you, but hopefully it will smooth out now that you got a new tenant in. I'm going to have to go over this thread again and reread everything you wrote about the Canton property.

The other two are really solid, and it's very encouraging to see those numbers. Thank you for being so transparent and open!

 We felt that we got a really good deal on the Canton property so we weren't upset, but we definitely weren't happy about it either.  We are in it for the long game so we went into this assuming that we will have some good years with properties and some bad, but as long as we keep acquiring properties our net cash flow will continue to increase as well as our net worth.  

Post: Roofstock Case Study

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Originally posted by @Simcha Davidman:

@Jason G. Thank you for this! It's awesome!


Based on what I've been able to follow, it seems like you've had to renew or lease up 5 of the 6 units. Were you able to increase rents? Can you provide some detail on this? Like, how were Roofstock's "market" rent numbers as compared to the in place tenants and to what you actually got at market?

Would you also be willing to give some more detail on the types of returns your getting? Both in terms of net cashflow after all expenses and reserves, and on the cash you've had to invest?

Thanks again and best of luck moving forward!

 Lithonia 2018

Rental Income: $10,916

Expenses: $7,600.16

  • Legal: $192.00
  • Management Fees: $967.52
  • Principal: $1,019.92
  • Interest:$ 3,036.44
  • Taxes: $1,786.28
  • Insurance: $598.00

Total: $3,315.84

Canton 2018

Rental Income: $13,804.68

Expenses: $18,542.85

  • HOA: $1,200
  • Maintenance/Turnover: $6,730
  • Management Fees: $828.28
  • Principal: $1,803.27
  • Interest: $5,483.13
  • Taxes: $1,787.84
  • Insurance: $710.33

Total: -$4,738.17

Villa Rica 2018

Rental Income: $12,180

Expenses: $10,311.87

  • Maintenance: $2,065
  • Management Fees: $730.80
  • Principal: $1,511.64
  • Interest: $4,376.64
  • Taxes: $1,033.95
  • Insurance: $593.84

Total: $1,868.13

Post: Roofstock Case Study

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Originally posted by @Simcha Davidman:

@Jason G. Thank you for this! It's awesome!


Based on what I've been able to follow, it seems like you've had to renew or lease up 5 of the 6 units. Were you able to increase rents? Can you provide some detail on this? Like, how were Roofstock's "market" rent numbers as compared to the in place tenants and to what you actually got at market?

Would you also be willing to give some more detail on the types of returns your getting? Both in terms of net cashflow after all expenses and reserves, and on the cash you've had to invest?

Thanks again and best of luck moving forward!

I've had three of the properties for a full calendar year (2018), two via Roofstock and one outside of Roofstock, so those will be the easiest to share the raw numbers with. I will see if I can get a post out either later tonight or on Sunday giving you a complete breakdown of rental income, PITI, PM, and actual expenses so you or anyone else can make a straight forward honest evaluation of the results. For all three I put down 20% on a 30 year conventional mortgage. The purchase price for each can be seen on my profile. The three properties I will share the numbers on are the Lithonia, Villa Rica, and Canton properties. The Lithonia property has had the same tenant inherited from the Roofstock purchase. The lease I inherited doesn't expire until later this year. The Villa Rica property's tenant moved out January 1st. They were the tenants inherited from purchasing through Roofstock. They reported they weren't renewing the lease because they were separating. We are advertising a higher rental amount. It was originally making $1,015/mo but is currently being listed for $1,075/mo. The Canton property, which wasn't purchased through Roofstock, had an inherited tenant that terminated the lease early. They were paying $1,350/mo and we originally listed it for $1,390/mo but just weren't getting attention. Ultimately ended up reducing it to $1,300 and it was rented.

Post: Looking for REI Friendly Lenders in the Atlanta Area

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Originally posted by @Anthony LoPrinzi:

Hello all,

I'm currently looking at making an offer on a duplex in Lithonia, GA. Which is about 20 minutes outside of downtown Atlanta. However, before I jump the gun and have to end up scrabbling to find a bank, mortgage company or broker that will work with me as an investor. I thought I'd ask you all if anyone investing in or around Atlanta might have some good recommendations for lenders they've worked with in the past. As I'm currently an active duty service member in the Air Force, I was considering using a VA Loan and was also wondering if anyone knew of any lenders in the area that offered VA Rehab loans. Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you all soon.

All the best,

Anthony

 Better Mortgage 

Post: My Roofstock Experience

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Originally posted by @Eran Withana:

Since there are few threads requesting for roofstock experience, decided to share my not-so-good experience with them. 

Disclaimer: I might still work with them in the future, but definitely will not be my first or second choice to pick properties from them. 

First Property

I did some research on few properties and finally found a one in Minnesota (IIRC). The numbers looked good and roofstock had all the valuation reports and everything else marked as green. What could go wrong, right? But thankfully, I went through every line in the property inspection report and noticed that under "Basement has water damage" marked as Yes. I was happy, since I found it, and furious at the same time. How could they mark all green for a property with basement water damage. 

Second Property

I thought this was a one time mistake and then worked with one of their agents to identify another property in Indianapolis. Again, the numbers looked good and I submitted an offer. It got accepted and from that moment on, Roofstock assigned me an agent who was very responsive and dynamic (kudos to that). I carefully looked at the property inspection report and the images and every line item looked good and marked green. 

I then engaged my lender and they sent someone to do an inspection/valuation. This is where things started to go south. The property assessor was obviously a tough guy and had highlighted every little thing as a disaster. But ... he found cracks on the wall (with images), broken windows, fences, structural issues in the kitchen which raised lender's and my eyebrows. How did Roofstock missed these? We then contacted Roofstock and their managers apparently had said they standby with *their* property inspection report. How can they standby on their report when the pictures were showing otherwise. I had a bit of rough time convincing them and finally decided to give up. 

I did more research and found out that Roofstock bought this property for way less, spent few thousand $$ to renovate it and had added about 50-60% markup on the price. This was also obvious when the lender's property assessment came in low. 

Summary

I had two consecutive bad experiences with them. One of the key traits I rely on REI is trust and they lost it with me by not only putting false information on their website and valuation report AND standing by those erroneous reports. How can I trust them going forward especially when I'm buying a remote property without being able to rely on the provided reports.

Hence, I decided to not to work with them at least for sometime because I don't want to spend a lot of time going through each and every item myself and not relying on the info they are providing. 

This could be a one time thing for me but I warn everyone of you to spent extra time verifying the information they are providing and not solely rely on the numbers. 

Roofstock still provides a very good property buying experience - no question on that. But they need to spend more time on making their reports on properties more realistic and build trust with the buyers. 

Hope this helps someone. 

Just a few thoughts.  The properties listed on Roofstock are not typically owned by Roofstock and are not "turnkey" properties.  The inspections are performed by third party vendors which Roofstock has stated they do not control or influence.  Not all inspectors are created equally and just like any other type of profession, there are those that provide higher quality work than others.  With respect to the first property, there is a difference between an active issue and a past issue.  If there was basement water intrusion, was this addressed by the seller and now evidence of water damage remains or was there active water intrusion?  If the former I wouldn't have an issue with the report indicating that area as green.  With respect to the second property, with Roofstock it is always important to view when the inspection report was done.  If a property has been sitting on the site for a period of time, damage can always occur at the property.  There is nothing wrong with requesting an updated inspection.  Lastly, make sure the seller fills out the disclosures.  Insist on it and do not sign the PSA without them doing so.  There are pros and cons to using Roofstock or finding yourself a buyer's agent.  I hope you find a method of acquiring properties that works best for you.

Post: Financing for investors with 10+ homes

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Originally posted by @Philip McCleary:

BP - so I have 15 SFR's and planning on buying 10 more. I am tapped out on FNMA so I secure a commercial lender out in CA (I'm in TX) with a 7% 5/1 ARM. I have tried lending one and they were about the same.

Any good solutions out there for 30yr money fixed with no impounds?

Doesn't Corevest offer 30 year fixed for SFR?

Post: Slip and Fall Claim - What do I do?

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Originally posted by @Alex T.:

@Jason G. Yes, I have GL coverage for this rehab project. I have forwarded a copy of the lawyer's letter to my insurance agent to see how they want to handle it. So frustrating...I'm very confident this is a bogus claim!

My GC also has a GL policy to which my LLC for this property is named as an additional insured. The claim is that a piece of wood fell and hit the claimant on the head. I'm 99% sure that my GC wasn't onsite or working with any subs on the day in question...is my insurance carrier going to try and file this with my GC's coverage because the claim is that part of the building was left unsecured?

If the insurance company decides to settle, do you have a sense for what impact it might have to my future Builder's Risk/GL policies? I assume I'm going to end up paying significantly higher premiums for the next couple of years. Does the answer change if the insurance company fights the claim and wins?

 Whether your premiums increase as a result of this claim is an underwriting function.  Whichever carrier you use will likely consider it as an additional risk factor, so it is a possibility your premiums do increase.  As for whether one policy or the other, or both provide coverage, that will depend on specific details of the incident.  If the claim cannot be resolved via pre-suit claims handling, then it is also possible the claimant could bring suit against both the GC and entity that owns the property.  The claim should be assigned a claims adjuster by the carrier who will have specific information for you.  The adjuster should be able to provide you status updates and details about relating to the allegations being made.  

Disclaimer: The information in this post does not constitute legal advice and does not establish an attorney-client relationship. It is provided for general informational purposes only, and may not reflect the current law in your jurisdiction. 

Post: Slip and Fall Claim - What do I do?

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Originally posted by @Alex T.:

Thanks all for the advice. I'm definitely not communicating with their lawyer. It seems like my insurance agent is out of town, but I've sent him a copy of the letter. I also know an injury lawyer in my state, so I'm trying to reach out to him as well.

If you have coverage, your insurance carrier should handle this matter.  Meaning they will negotiate resolution of the claim, and if suit is brought provide you with legal representation. The lawyer for claimant will likely try to resolve the claim pre-suit, by sending the claim adjuster any relevant medical records, an incident report, etc.

Disclaimer: The information in this post does not constitute legal advice and does not establish an attorney-client relationship. It is provided for general informational purposes only, and may not reflect the current law in your jurisdiction. 

Post: Septic Tank or Sewer

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Originally posted by @Heshel Mangel:

Any investors and/or contractors have suggestions or knowledge on how to approach a home with a septic tank. 

Stay away, factor in extra maintenance costs, or no biggie?

 If you do purchase a property with a septic tank, you can have it inspected and pumped so you have a baseline that it is functioning correctly if the seller cannot give you any history on it.  The PM or you (if self managed) will need inform tenants that they cannot flush certain products down the toilet and if the system fails it can cost a lot of money, but if properly maintained risk should be minimal.