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All Forum Posts by: Jason G.

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Post: Roofstock Case Study

Jason G.
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We closed on our first duplex last week.  The duplex was through Roofstock and located in Conyers, GA.  So this makes our fifth Atlanta Market rental and fourth through Roofstock.  The process went extremely smooth, but because we've done it several times already there are no surprises.  The lender we've been using for this and the last GA property has been a pleasure to work with and they are very investor friendly with no odd overlays.   We purchased for 127k w/ 25% down and the total rents are $1,400.  

We had our first tenant leave, a couple of months early, but a new tenant is moving in so we only lost two months total in rent.  The turnover required new carpeting and painting as well as a few other items.  In total it came out to approximately 6k which really killed the numbers for the year.  On a second property the tenant gave notice to non-renew, so hopefully we can fill that vacancy soon, though having a vacancy in winter isn't ideal.  

Currently we have six conventional mortgage slots taken, so we are hoping to add a new property each year for the next four years and then our primary should be paid off giving us another slot.  Looking at options after that it seems that the safest course of action would be just to pay one property off and buy another and keep repeating.  Our goal is to have net annual cash flow of between 200-300k by the time we are 50, which gives us fourteen years to make this happen. 

Post: HELOC- gone? other products?

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Originally posted by @Amy Yarnall:

I have contacted five national lenders, and all of them discontinued offering HELOC products as of Nov. 1, 2018.

1. Curious- anyone know why? Is it the new tax law restricting their use? 


2. Outside of a traditional second mortgage, where I take all of teh cash at the settlement table at one time, are there any other work arounds or similar products to replace the HELOC?

I want to access the equity in a home to purchase another, and I don't want to refi the whole thing. The first mortgage will be paid off soon. I want to pay off the second mortgage, and take out more equity. 

P.S. I have tried multiple times to "search a forum" and it will not let me use the Loans, Mortgages.. Conventional Financing" Forum for this post. Frustrating. What am I doing wrong? 

 Which lenders did you contact?

Post: Seller finance property AND closing costs?

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Originally posted by @Jon Mark:

I found a multifamily property that is open to owner financing the entire property, but I do not have any money for closing costs Is it possible to add the closing costs to the note the seller will be holding, if the seller pays closing costs? 

Example - Seller agreed to finance 600k deal

Closing costs - 18k

New agreed upon price is 618k (18k over list price) because they are paying closing costs

Deal will still cash flow

What other methods are there to solving this issue?

Thanks

Jon

 Just curious, if you do not have closing costs, do you have reserves?  

Post: Roofstock Case Study

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Originally posted by @Wryan Feil:
@Jason Gines

Jason would you share whether you formed a business entity to accommodate the Roofstock purchase? If so would you share your rationale for the type of entity(ies) and the state or states they were formed in? Thanks

 I did not form a business entity.

Post: Roofstock Case Study (Summer 2018)

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Originally posted by @Brandon Sturgill:

@Jason S. I don't fully understand the transaction and how the profit-center is built in for Roofstock...so, are they an agent/broker...or just a facilitator?....are they just hocking MLS-listed properties or actually sourcing deals? Do they get a commission?...anything else you could add to this line of questions?

Roofstock is the agent of the seller. Their marketplace is exclusive listings not found on MLS. Buyers pay .5% and sellers 2.5%.

Post: Roofstock Case Study (Summer 2018)

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Having purchased four properties through Roofstock I can say that the questionnaire thing happens each time. I dont really understand it either. When did you find out about the HOA and roof? The HOA wasn't listed in the disclosures? Also the link to the property still exists but unless you had it as a saved propetry or bookmarked I am not sure how to access it. Best to save all the documents to your computer and not rely on them keeping it for you.

Post: Renegotiate or walk away?

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Originally posted by @Eric Dymesich:
I'm in contract on a Duplex and the closing is Monday. Its friday and me realtor just called and said the seller can't close because there is a tenant in one unit that won't leave. (The tenant is also behind on rent.) I required that the unit be empty before closing because it needs work and the renters were behing on rent. So I have a few options. 1-Back out of the deal and start looking for a new deal. 2- Change the closing date. 3- Or make a creative counter offer. Maybe like $ off the price for every 30days the closing is delayed or some other creative idea.

Let me know because this is my first purchase so I dont have experience to fall back on.

Thanks!

 I would personally change the closing date.  If you are financing the property ask the seller to cover any rate lock fees while the eviction process is taking place.

Post: First time Roofstock deal.. how to know if I am overpaying??

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Originally posted by @Clayton Mobley:

@Gre Clifton you got the right answers from @Doug Utberg, @Tony Kim, and @Ali Boone - never pull the trigger on a deal just because you're afraid of missing out, and never make a move just because you feel like you need to be 'doing' something with your capital at any given moment. 

I agree, the AC issue would be a deal breaker for me. I may be biased toward full-service turnkey, but I agree, real turnkey companies would never leave an old unit like that in a property, that's not turnkey, that's pushing risk and expenses onto the buyer. Plus, the fact that they then 'fixed' it but didn't mention this change until you read the fine print is very troubling. Not only would I be concerned about what other issues they glossed over, but that kind of doublespeak just doesn't bode well for the transaction in general. I know they wouldn't be the PM on the property, so it's not like you'd need to deal with them long-term, but I would recommend always steering clear of folks that try to obfuscate like that at any point in an REI transaction.

New investors often feel antsy to deploy their capital as soon as they feel like they've got their feet on the ground, but not every deal is the right deal, and putting your money into a property where the seller is actively misinforming you is not going to be a good start to your portfolio. There will always be real estate, there will always be sellers and tenants and buyers.

I'd say pass and move onto the next. Hopefully, it's a seller that's a bit more transparent.

Best of luck!

Clayton

Roofstock is not a turn-key company,  it is an online marketplace.  While most of the properties listed are in very good shape, they are not  normally in "turn-key" shape and there are typically items that need to be addressed after purchase in the inspection reports that are provided.  

Post: Refinancing or heloc four our first rental property?

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Whether you refinance out into a mortgage at 750k or just take out a HELOC, make sure you can cover those payments. Your monthly payments are going to increase significantly between a 250k mortgage to a 750k mortgage. I don't know your financial situation aside from what you mentioned above, but if you will need tenants paying rent to be able to cover everything this can go really bad really quickly.

Post: HELOC Investment Strategies

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Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Jason G.:
Originally posted by @Kiley N.:
@Jason Gines

What was the reason for the season? (no rhyme intended) I was under the impression that heloc funds are available for the DP.

I've read both. Wanted no issues. I did not want an issue with finding a property to purchase, entering into a PSA and then being told they wouldn't consider the funds in the HELOC.

When I am asked to provide proof of funds for down payment, the bank looks at my last two months bank statements. They do that specifically to make sure the down payment isn't coming from another loan. It doesn't necessarily hide it from the bank, because they will see your HELOC and know what balance is sitting on the account. They just want to see the cash is there. It would be pointless to go to the trouble of writing a loan, only to get to closing and find out the buyer doesn't have cash. You may not have to season, but it seems the safest thing to avoid questions/issues.

I do not believe it would get that far if they wouldn't accept the HELOC funds. They would see fairly quickly that the funds weren't there to purchase.