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All Forum Posts by: Jay Hurst

Jay Hurst has started 7 posts and replied 1572 times.

Post: How to Calculate DTI with Schedule E

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Quote from @David Cherkowsky:

Hi All,

I purchased an investment property in the middle of last year and to this point have been using 0.75*lease value in my DTI calculation. I have just received a draft of my tax return with the schedule E. I'm wondering how rental income is now calculated. I have heard the value from the schedule E is used (rather than 75% of lease). Can someone explain how the calculation works?

Thank you.

 @David Cherkowsky    This form is used:  https://content.enactmi.com/documents/calculators/Form1038.C...    This is what I recreated for you the other day. 

Post: Check my analysis

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Quote from @Tyler Garza:

Deal :

Duplex Home
2 beds / unit
2 baths / unit
3,000 sqft
Asking 300k

60k down

Est rent/yr - 31,200

5% Vacancy

20% Op Expense

Mortgage 240k assuming 7%

Results: 

CF - 6,600

Cocr - 11%

Cap - 8%

Looking at this for a buy and hold and trying to determine if I am analyzing this right


 For the best rates, to get near the 7% on a 2-4 family you are going to need to put down 25% instead of 20%. 

Post: Pay off primary property or investment property first?

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Quote from @Ian Hutton:
Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Ian Hutton:

Hey everyone thanks for the feedback, I did forget to mention I plan on buying more properties (which is why I’d like to reduce my debt) let me know if that changes any answers, but sounds like paying off the 88k 6.4% interest is the way to go 


 If you plan on buying new properties do not pay off any debt. You will just be trading 6.4% for 7.5%~. why do that??


 My thought behind it was to simply get rid of debt and take on less risk 


 sure, if you are deleveraging across the board but if you are going to turn around and buy a new property with leverage that does not make sense.  If you want less leverage simply put down the funds you would use to pay down the 6.4% rate on the new property so you are at say 60% loan to value on the new house. Rates are simply higher now then when you got the 6.4% so in a way that 6.4% is an asset (the primary REALLY is an asset at 2.9%).  

Post: Pay off primary property or investment property first?

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Quote from @Ian Hutton:

Hey everyone thanks for the feedback, I did forget to mention I plan on buying more properties (which is why I’d like to reduce my debt) let me know if that changes any answers, but sounds like paying off the 88k 6.4% interest is the way to go 


 If you plan on buying new properties do not pay off any debt. You will just be trading 6.4% for 7.5%~. why do that??

Post: New to DFW market

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Quote from @Dallin Blank:

I am new to the DFW RE market. I am looking to invest in some properties in DFW but did not realize how many houses had foundations issues here due to the clay soils. 

Would love to connect with anyone that has a lot of experience with how to navigate these foundation issues and how you succesfully invest in DFW real estate depsite this issue 

 @Dallin Blank  Buy a house with a pier and beam foundation. MUCH cheaper to fix foundation issues and much easier (cheaper) to fix plumbing issues. 

Post: Buying Down Points

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Quote from @Tony Thomas:

Any best practices around buying down points?

I'm considering a cash out refi. 70% LTV on a property that will likely appraise around $450K. I can buy down the interest rate. It would cost me $13,835 to get down to 6%, which would give the best value over the course of the loan.

Why wouldn’t I buy down all the way to a 6% interest rate? If not down to 6%, where would you buy down to?

 @Tony Thomas  Points, discount or buy down are all the same thing, and that thing is simply pre-paid interest. You are giving the end buyer of the loan (not the broker) the interest upfront instead of over time therefore you get a lower rate. And most folks want to "roll in" this cost into the loan. Assuming you do that here you are financing that pre-paid interest over the 30 year period. If you just take the 13,835 financed at 6% you are adding 83 dollars a month. so a double whammy.

Now, lets consider if rates drop to 5.5% in 24 months (not a prediction just a what if) and you could have refinanced at a much lower costs then the above scenario in what you paid in pre-paid and additional interest. on the other hand, if rates for your same scenario after your 5 year payback period is 9, then you will have an asset with a much lower then current market rent.  So, to answer your question there is certainly a case  for both sides and the correct answer is really unknowable. But, taking the lowest rate at any cost is not simply a no brainer do it every time. 

But, I will say, if the pricing above is for a conventional loan and you have good credit you should be able to better in pricing. 

Post: Where to find a private lender for a primary residence?

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Quote from @Katryna Wood:

Thanks! It does help. 

My husbands aunt is selling it to us at a discount but is unable to do any sort of financing as she needs to sell it and get the funds. It is in livable condition but needs cosmetic repairs.

We are currently paying $1600 on a $220k mortgage and we want to sell and move to this home, but we would only net about $7-10k on the sale of our home. 

The only reason we don't qualify for traditional lending is because I took some time off to help my terminally ill father, and my husband has been in a commission-based role for less than a year (the lender said you need 2 years of history for that). This is why we are seeking a private lender as we would refinance after 1-2 years once we have proof of steady job history.


 The reason it is harder to get a mortgage on a primary home vs investment property is a federal law called "ability to repay" or ATR.  A lender is required to establish the ATR of a borrower when it will be their primary residence. This came out of the fall out of the subprime era and eventually crash. A lot of those loans were made to people who never had a chance to actually pay back the loan and that resulted in a lot of people losing their homes. If you are buying an investment property, it is a business, and if you by something you cannot afford the thought is that is on you. 

The ATR does not have to be the same on every deal. There are many ways to look at it.  You mentioned you took time off, but are you back at a W-2 job yet? 

Post: College Graduate Starting Career With 10k in the Bank. Rent or Buy Property?

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Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

Don't buy a condo in Dallas as an investment property.

HOA dues will kill the deal. Maybe it is ok if it is for you to live there and enjoy the amenities, but no need for you to pay high dues for a tenant to use the pool.

Many condos don't qualify for FHA financing in Dallas. Too many rentals, too much deferred maintenance, no real budgets, not enough money in reserves.

You can still get CapEx in condos....these are called "special assessments" . The letter goes like this: By the way we have underfunded our reserves, so we need $5000 from each condo owner by July 1st, in order to replace the roofs....(or paint, or resurface the parking lot, or replace the boiler, or fix the foundations).

You can potentially get approved for a loan out of college without work history.  You have a great credit score.  Typically lender will want to see first paycheck before you close.

Maybe rent a room in a house hack (we have one coming up in Little Elm if you can make the drive) save some more money and buy a house.  This one might need a house manager in a few months so some chance to live cheaper in exchange for managing the house.  You save money, you get experience, and then you buy your own in a year.


Very likely the condo project would not even be eligible for an FHA loan. Condo's value is very much tied to the overall health of the financial for the project. Most lower priced condo projects are not very healthy and why they are low priced. You can look up here: https://entp.hud.gov/idapp/html/condlook.cfm

Post: Buying a quadplex

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Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Jeremy Torres:
Quote from @Patrick Drury:

@Jeremy Torres
In terms of what's a good offer you would need to check with an agent or do some research on your own of looking at comps in the market. If you plan on living in the property FHA could be a good route to go. Just keep in mind the MIP doesn't come off the loan like normal PMI at 25% equity. Also since it's a 4-unit it would need to meet the sustainability requirement.

Thank you I’ll probably do 5% down so I can avoid the PMI.   

Conventional loans with 5% still require mortgage insurance. It is cheaper then FHA mortgage insurance, and you can potentially drop it in the future without refinancing unlike FHA.

However, if the FHA interest rate is lower, I would still go that route and if rates drop refinance  however keep in mind FHA has PMI for life 

 Here you go


FHA has the self sustaining requirement that requires the three non owner occupied units to cover the entire PITI which with 3.5% or 5% down is virtually impossible with today's interest rates and price level. So, really FHA is not even an option in the majority or markets today.

Post: Buying a quadplex

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Quote from @Patrick Drury:

@Jeremy Torres
In terms of what's a good offer you would need to check with an agent or do some research on your own of looking at comps in the market. If you plan on living in the property FHA could be a good route to go. Just keep in mind the MIP doesn't come off the loan like normal PMI at 25% equity. Also since it's a 4-unit it would need to meet the sustainability requirement.

Thank you I’ll probably do 5% down so I can avoid the PMI.   

Conventional loans with 5% still require mortgage insurance. It is cheaper then FHA mortgage insurance, and you can potentially drop it in the future without refinancing unlike FHA.