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All Forum Posts by: Jennifer Bott

Jennifer Bott has started 11 posts and replied 20 times.

i'm still depreciating Unit 3.  I just don't forecast renting it all. it's personal living space for family & friends.  So I don't want to continue depreciation it, but it's not technically a disposition. 

I used to rent 2 apartments on my property, but after Unit 2 tenants left in May of 2023, I decided not to re-rent Unit 2.   I had been depreciating this unit.   I can't exactly report it as a disposition because I'm not selling my home.  What is the tax treatment with respect to reporting, depreciaiton, etc.

Post: Qualified Business Income Deduction

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

We own several multi-families and I'm clear on the safe harbour ruling to allow those interests to be treated as a business for purposes of the Qualified Business Income Deduction.  What I'm not clear about is whether this also applies if I rent out part of my personal residence.   We live in a 3 family home, and are now renting out the other two units, while we are living in the main unit.   Would the 2 sections we are renting both qualify for the qualified business income deduction?  We meet all the requirements listed in terms of hours, separate books, etc...

Post: Qualified Business Income Deduction

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

We own several multi-families and I'm clear on the safe harbour ruling to allow those interests to be treated as a business for purposes of the Qualified Business Income Deduction.  What I'm not clear about is whether this also applies if I rent out part of my personal residence.   We live in a 3 family home, and are now renting out the other two units, while we are living in the main unit.   Would the 2 sections we are renting both qualify for the qualified business income deduction?  We meet all the requirements listed in terms of hours, separate books, etc...

Post: Mortgage Interest - Proceeds from 1 Rental used for another....

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
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We took a loan out against one of our rental properties and used the proceeds to both buy another, and fix up another. Where do I deduct the mortgage interest, on the original property used to secure the loan?  or on the properties the loan was used for?  

Post: Consulting Income in Rental Real Estate

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
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We have an LLC holding our 10 rental properties. My husband, single member, gave consulting advice to a friend with respect to the rental real estate business and helped him acquire properties, set up an LLC etc. and was paid to do so.

Would this income he received be considered passive, and reported on Sch E within our LLC? If so, would it be spread out as 'other income' across the properties? Should this friend send us a 1099-Misc? Want to confirm that it would not be subject to SE taxes....

Post: Withdrawing funds-LLC

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
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Yes, that has always been my understanding, which is why I was confused on the previous posts about "reporting" of the draws, and how if done incorrectly, can possibly pierce the veil of protection.  I'm just planning on notating in my checkbook items as draws.  Is there anything more to it than this?

Post: Withdrawing funds-LLC

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Keith Barton:

Hang on here - if we assume a default or common set of circumstances then the advice to take a draw is fine. HOWEVER, other circumstances could make taking a draw DISASTEROUS.

How many members are there in the LLC? Is the LLC taxed as a partnership or as a corporation? What is your position with the LLC?

For example, if you are the only member of the LLC and the LLC is taxed as a disregarded entity (which is the default method unless you elect to have the LLC taxed as a corporation) then the ONLY way you can pay yourself in accounting terms is to take a draw on owner's equity.

However, if you are a member and the LLC has elected to be taxed as a corporation, you can choose to pay yourself a salary or you can take a distribution. Paying yourself a salary means the LLC has to withhold payroll taxes and you have to pay income tax on the salary, but the LLC also gets to take that as a business expense deduction. If you take the money as a distribution, the LLC will pay taxes on that, and you will pay capital gains taxes on that at your normal tax bracket rate. In addition, if you are not the only member, is that distribution in compliance with your operating agreement or member agreement? If not, you can run into big trouble.

While there is a higher probability that Jeff is talking about a single member LLC that is a disregarded entity - that is just an assumption until more information is known. You know what they say about assume....

By the way - if we are talking about a single member LLC that is a disregarded entity - you can take out however much you want whenever you want. The accountant classifies it as a draw on owner's equity and you report it on IRS Form 1040 Schedule C.

Keith - Like Jeff, I'm setting up a single-member LLC for our rentals, which will be reflected on Schedule E as it's passive income. In terms of taking draws, after summing up the total draws for the year, how and where should it get reported on Schedule E? Income less expenses is straightforward - it's the draws and related reporting that I'm unsure about.

Post: Asset Protection - Marital Separation of Assets

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

My husband and I have 4 rental properties, and we're strategizing on the best way to protect our personal assets. I'm not sold on setting up an LLC, for several reasons. Putting all 4 properties into an LLC would mean that any lawsuits arising would put all those properties at risk. Setting up and maintaining separate LLCs for each property gets costly (in MA it's $500 start-up fee and $500 per year filing fee for each LLC). And while setting it up is fairly easy, maintaining complete separation of money (separate bank accounts, credit cards, money draws and deposits) can be rather difficult - any mistakes could disregard LLC status in events of litigation. Also, it seems it's getting easier to "pierce the veil" of protection, as seen in court cases around the nation as of late.

Umbrella insurance is great, but in cases of an enormous claim, would not protect our personal assets.

So my question is, what about spousal separation of assets? If my husband is the sole owner of the rental properties, and we legally remove his name from our joint ownership of our personal residence, so that I become sole owner, wouldn't that protect (my) personal residence from lawsuits against my husband and his properties? We do file a joint return, however I don't see that as any right to co-mingle our assets in event of claims. Any advice would be appreciated.

Post: Asset Protection - Marital Separation of Assets

Jennifer BottPosted
  • Investor
  • North Grafton, MA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

My husband and I have 4 rental properties, and we're strategizing on the best way to protect our personal assets. I'm not sold on setting up an LLC, for several reasons. Dumping all 4 properties into an LLC would mean that any lawsuits arising would put all those properties at risk. Setting up and maintaining separate LLCs for each property gets costly (in MA it's $500 start-up fee and $500 per year filing fee for each LLC). And while setting it up is fairly easy, maintaining complete separation of money (separate bank accounts, credit cards, money draws and deposits) can be rather difficult - any mistakes could disregard LLC status in events of litigation. Also, it seems it's getting easier to "pierce the veil" of protection, as seen in court cases around the nation as of late.

Umbrella insurance is great, but in cases of an enormous claim, would not protect our personal assets. 

So my question is, what about spousal separation of assets?   If my husband is the sole owner of the rental properites, and we legally remove his name from our joint ownership of our personal residence, so that I become sole owner, wouldn't that protect (my) personal residence from lawsuits against my husband and his properties?  We do file a joint return, however I don't see that as any right to co-mingle our assets in event of claims.   Any advice would be appreciated.

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