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All Forum Posts by: Laura Winters

Laura Winters has started 7 posts and replied 43 times.

Quote from @Ryan Brooks:

Thanks everyone, I am open to using a manager or self managing, I think it depends on the amount of revenue. I tend to be a budget traveler myself so I definitely understand there's a market for places that aren't luxurious, it doesn't bother me at all to market to the more budged minded traveler.

I'm familiar with the downtown area and nearby, southtown would be great but it seems there isn't too much for my price range right there, the area east of downtown, on the other side of the 37 freeway seems to have a lot more in my range, I've driven around there before, the area seems a bit rough around the edges but I noticed some things like a co-working spot so it seems like it has some businesses moving in.


 You have to self manage run down properties. You will get a horrible review with someone else managing (or possibly shut down) since they can’t put the effort cheap house requires . It is not a choice but must. If you can’t do it by yourself, don’t even start it. 

In the rental income world, what makes money is the number of bedrooms. 

I don't see any difference in Airbnb. 

Today, I saw a line at a Tesla dealership. They said they are selling their car every 20 minutes just at this location. Media will tell you very very filtered information. 

Quote from @Jeremy Jareckyj:

I have been using the new system the last few weeks ( i manage over 100 doors in northern utah) 

It is not very host friendly. they are really strict on what they will remove. One KEY piece to mention is that you ONLY get 2 tries to remove a review. 

I have had far less success removing reviews that would have been removed in the old system


 I find this humiliating. Crazy that we are putting multi-million dollar assets on their platform and these "review specialists" treat us like we are criminals who are waiting for parole judgments XD. I swear no other company will treat millionaires who invest in their business in this way. I couldn't believe that I couldn't speak to anyone and I could only write my appeal twice haha even Walmart customer service will give a more respectful manner

I got my first STR at $150k. Not everyone can start with a $1M condo or cabin. It is at least 10 times harder to run a cheap property than a nice property but you will learn super fast as almost every booking will have some issues and you will be booked every day. I had and learned possibly every Airbnb scenario from that property. (Drug party, orgy, auto theft, high school party, prostitution, funeral -yes someone actually threw freaking funeral at my Airbnb) Running a nice property after that is so easy. My cash-on-cash return on that property for the first year was over 150%. Anything is possible so good luck!

It looks like Airbnb removed the most relevant option from the review.

Reviews are now organized by most recent, highest, and lowest rating. (default most recent)

It was ridiculous they were showing years-old bad reviews at the top with the new change.

Good thing they hear our voices! 

Quote from @Josh Sedivy:

@Laura Winters That’s disappointing. Did they give any actual reasons, or was it just a generic denial?

No reason why it is denied. Just say I have one last chance to appeal. I used to be able to remove at least 50% of bad reviews. I think the chance of removing any review now is very very slim.
Quote from @Josh Sedivy:

Hey @Laura Winters checking in on how your appeal is going. Interested to hear how it’s turning out.

I placed 10+ all non 5 stars reviews to test it. They are all denied. This will be not fun for hosts. 
Quote from @Andrew Steffens:

I can confirm on one I own they brought up the the only 1 star review from 2023 to the top although the last 5 had 5 stars.  Going to have my staff test review removal this week. We had a woman in a $1,500 per night rental complain that some water intrusion was occurring during storm season last year and demanded a 50% refund (it was not that bad, 2 towels cleaned up the mess).  When we declined she said her review would reflect this and she left a 1 star.  Lets see if that is good enough for the AI.


 I just tested with every review that is not 5 stars. Got denied for every single one. This will be not fun. Before the change, a case like yours would be an easy removal. Not sure with the new AI system though. Good luck! 

Hey guys, so I believe you guys saw that Airbnb just changed the review system without any announcement. 

There are 2 major changes and it is a part of Airbnb moving forward to AI system. 

1. Airbnb review removal is no longer handled by the support team or a human. 
This is critical for any review removal since now hosts can’t no longer convince support teams or continuously calling them until find a host-friendly support team member.  
When you choose to dispute a review, they give you 5 categories and the process is very straightforward. 

- retaliatory (bad review because we enforced the rule or charged)

- irrelevant (guest never arrived)

- guest was pressured to write a bad / good review (paid review)

- competitor

- content policy (usually name or address calling or bullying)

Anything that is outside of these 5 categories is not removable at all.!!!!
For example, usual challenging reviews such as complaining about noise, parking, neighbor throwing party, local event, weather…. Are now impossible to remove since they fall under the category of how guests felt during the trip.

This will break a lot of myth about the Airbnb review system such as hosts are not responsible for things that is outside of host’s control (Airbnb never said this in their policy) or Guests can’t write a review about nonfactual things such as BBQ grill or hot tub were broken even it was simply user error. (Airbnb doesn’t get involved in fact checking)

Once you request a review removal, you get the answer pretty shortly and they just tell you whether it was approved or not. They don’t tell you anything about why and you get only one more chance to appeal for that specific review. 

I tested with old reviews to see how easy it is and Yeap. It is not easy at all to remove reviews. (I tested with 1 outside of my control factor, guest’s car got vandalized in a public street and 1 complained about something we don't provide. )

So what happens if you fail to remove the review? It is really bad with the change 2.


2. Airbnb now uses relevant review first as default. (guests have to click the newest first to see reviews in timeline order We have no knowledge of how AI chooses which review to bring it to top but they definitely choose none-5-star reviews over hundreds of other 5 star reviews.
This is really bad since now every single guest will see that one bad review you failed to remove before making their bookings. Even after year and hundreds of successful 5 star stays! So imagine that review talks about they had a sewage back up or the neighbor had a huge truck and they couldn’t find a parking spot. (even if it was just one moving day, now everyone will see this first!)

This will be a challenging time for hosts. I only see that this is the start of AI era and everything will be strictly rule-based even if those rules are not perfect. Big players who usually choose to push bad reviews by volume tactic now really need to think about their strategy. 

Good luck everyone!