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All Forum Posts by: Joe Stout

Joe Stout has started 25 posts and replied 73 times.

Post: Things Most forgotten When Setting Up an Airbnb

Joe Stout
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  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37
Quote from @Henry T.:

Leaving cards so they can rent directly next time.


 This is an amazing tip. Thanks!

Post: Running Income and expenses through an LLC

Joe Stout
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  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37

@Kerry Baird I'm actually at 6 deals at the moment, and have 5 properties since one of them was a flip. I completely understand that. DSCR loans seem great and feasible if Im using OPM, but really stink when using my own money because of the high cash needed for down payment. Appreciate your comment! Also, any reason that the holding company is an S corp?

Post: Things Most forgotten When Setting Up an Airbnb

Joe Stout
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  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37

Hey guys,

As a new STR host, I'm so worried about forgetting something vital to a person's stay! What's the most forgotten thing that new hosts tend to look past that makes a large difference in a persons stay?

thank you!

Post: Running Income and expenses through an LLC

Joe Stout
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  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37

@Lucas Miles Thanks for fully answering my question and helping me understand! 

Post: The house across the way - yard sale house!

Joe Stout
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  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37

Investment Info:

Townhouse buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $155,000
Cash invested: $40,675

Planned to split into a duplex at first but didn't want to ruin the beautiful layout for when it is decided to sell. Came into it with a 5% down primary residence loan and will rent after 6 months of living there to stay compliant. Partner brought closing costs, down payment, and rehab costs initially and plan to buy him out using a HELOC from another property and paying back the HELOC with the cash flow from this property.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

It was right across the street from where I was living at the time. An awesome appreciating neighborhood with lots of neighbors that have pride of ownership.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Bought this house off market from a yard sale. Noticed the seller was having yard sales often, offered to buy the house with everything in it. Seller was told by an agent that his house would not meet FHA standards and that the majority of people looking to buy at this price in this market are FHA users. Wrote number on napkin and gave it to the seller. Went on Facebook and white pages to find sellers number and close the deal. Negotiated from 165k to 155k

How did you finance this deal?

5% conventional Primary home loan.

How did you add value to the deal?

Finished the basement, added bathroom in the basement, painted entire house $5000, add smoke alarms ($1300), hand rails, new doors, new roof $2375, new windows $6000, etc. Property was rehabbed for 2 months after finding contractors that would work on the project and do it quickly. Negotiated contractor price from $24,000 for finishing entire basement and adding bathroom to $18,000. stair and lighting additions the cost was $20,400.

What was the outcome?

Cash flowing rental ready to be set up.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Definitely need more rigor in vetting contractors, keep hiring contractors that are looking to take advantage. Need to establish a template contract for all service people- contractors, painters, photographers. This way everyone is held accountable.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

My painter is Bastian Campos, he is the founder of BM Painting. His Instagram is @bm.painting2016 He does incredible work. He knows people in the field and helps anyway he can with your project, but his specialty is painting.

Post: The house across the way - yard sale house!

Joe Stout
Posted
  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37

Investment Info:

Townhouse buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $155,000
Cash invested: $40,675

Bought this house off market from a yard sale. Noticed the seller was having yard sales often, offered to buy the house with everything in it. Seller was told by an agent that his house would not meet FHA standards and that the majority of people looking to buy at this price in this market are FHA users. Wrote number on napkin and gave it to the seller. Went on Facebook and white pages to find sellers number and close the deal. Used paperwork from a consultant which charged the seller $3500 for his mediation. Asked for $3,000 seller concessions. Negotiated from $165,000 to $155,000- house had been vacant for 5+ years. Planned to split into a duplex at first but didn't want to ruin the beautiful layout for when it is decided to sell. Came into it with a 5% down primary residence loan and will rent after 6 months of living there to stay compliant. Partner brought closing costs, down payment, and rehab costs initially and plan to buy him out using a HELOC from another property and paying back the HELOC with the cash flow from this property. Ran the rehab to finish the basement, add bathroom in the basement, paint entire house, add smoke alarms, hand rails, new doors, new roof, new windows, etc. Property was rehabbed for 2 months after finding contractors that would work on the project and do it quickly. Negotiated contractor price from $24,000 for finishing entire basement and adding bathroom to $18,000. With tips and other things that needed to be done, the cost was $20,400. Paid $2375 for Painting cabinets in kitchen, Paid $600 for fridge, paid $1300 for hardwired smoke & carbon alarms, handrailings, paint on exterior of windows that were not changed in basement. $24,675 was total rehab, $16,000 was total to acquire house.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

It was right across the street from where I was living at the time. An awesome appreciating neighborhood with lots of neighbors that have pride of ownership.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Yard Sale, negotiated it by saying I can move quickly and I am pre approved.

How did you finance this deal?

5% conventional Primary home loan.

How did you add value to the deal?

Added bathroom in basement, finished basement, Added fridge in kitchen, painted cabinets a bright white, painted entire house agreeable gray with bright white as trim.

What was the outcome?

Cash flowing rental ready to be set up.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Definitely need more rigor in vetting contractors, keep hiring contractors that are looking to take advantage. Need to establish a template contract for all service people- contractors, painters, photographers. This way everyone is held accountable.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

My painter is Bastian Campos, he is the founder of BM Painting. His Instagram is @bm.painting2016 He does incredible work. He knows people in the field and helps anyway he can with your project, but his specialty is painting.

Post: Running Income and expenses through an LLC

Joe Stout
Posted
  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37

Hey everyone, I've been told a million times to start running my income and expenses through my LLC. What is the purpose of this? I am worried about running it through my business and then becoming less "bankable" to lenders when asking for a HELOC, loan, etc since I will not have had 2 years of rental history within my same account. Was just turned away from a HELOC because I dont have two years of rental history for my assets since my first asset I bought was in May 2021.

Thank you and Happy Holidays!

Post: Selling a Seller Financed Deal

Joe Stout
Posted
  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37
Quote from @Jeff Copeland:

If you buy the property with seller financing, then sell it at some point in the future, the mortgage from the seller will show up in the title search and it will need to be paid off at closing, the same as if it were from Bank of America or any other lender. 

The title company or attorney will get a payoff statement from the lender, and they will be paid off out of your sales proceeds at closing. They will also sign a satisfaction of mortgage that will be recorded so the property can be conveyed from you to the new buyer with free and clear title. 

For more details, see: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


 This sounds almost right but I do have a couple questions. When hearing free and clear I always think of someone that had no mortgage on the property. But you’re saying the next person would have brought a mortgage to purchase it correct? But awesome insight about the title search showing that mortgage. i wouldn’t have thought they would be able to see mortgages in a title search- just the title and making sure the person selling is the one on the title.

Post: Selling a Seller Financed Deal

Joe Stout
Posted
  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Joe Stout

Both parties in a seller-financed deal should hire a real estate attorney or real estate agent to write and review the sales contract and promissory note, along with related tasks. Try to find professionals who are experienced with seller-financed home transactions—and who have experience where you live, if possible, because some relevant regulations (such as those that govern balloon payments) do vary by jurisdiction.

Seller financing can be a helpful option in a challenging real estate market. However, the arrangement triggers some special risks for buyers and sellers, and it's wise to engage professional help to mitigate those and allow the process to run smoothly.

All the best!


 Nicely said. Also, your name is super memorable 😂 appreciate the value you shared this morning. Have a great weekend!

Post: Selling a Seller Financed Deal

Joe Stout
Posted
  • Investor
  • Catonsville, MD
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 37
Quote from @Matt Devincenzo:

If the sale is a standard sale where the buyer is bringing funds/loan to close, then everything will simply get paid off and your buyer's loan will be in place. The only difference is that the underlying loan being paid off is in your seller's name not yours. Make sure you have paperwork to allow you to obtain info from the mortgage company directly since that could create an issue with closing years down the road if you seller is unresponsive or uncooperative. 


 Hey Matt, thanks for the answer. That sounds simple enough. I just wondered about the logistics- but as long as I have contact information of that lender then it sounds like everything is okay. Great tip about the seller being unresponsive. Take care!