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All Forum Posts by: John Morelli

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Post: Under contract, need a lender

John MorelliPosted
  • Lender
  • Deerfield, IL
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Anthony Torri:

Hello,

I am currently under contract to purchase a 4-plex in CT (3 residential units and 1 store front). The property also has a large parking lot across the street from a big employer and generates income from it. 

I haven’t been able to find a lender because after doing a title search it seems that the property is grandfathered in to legally have those residential units since it’s zoned commercial. Lenders have fear that if the property were to ever burn down or get destroyed that the zoning would not allow it to be rebuilt as it currently is. 

Anyone know if a lender who can make a 20% down DSCR loan work on this or have any advice?

Legal, non-conforming zoning is permitted by both FNMA and FHLMC. The concern is typically centered around how the Appraiser denotes any adverse impact the underlying zoning has on the value or marketability of the property as-is. Put together a package and try local banks or credit unions in the property's footprint.

Post: Interest on a Promissory Note?

John MorelliPosted
  • Lender
  • Deerfield, IL
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Thomas Sulz:
Quote from @John Morelli:
Quote from @Thomas Sulz:

Hi All,

I am looking to fund some RE investments via private financing and had some general questions I was hoping the community could give me some feedback on.

Obviously, the terms around a private loan could be structured many different ways and ultimately be decided between both parties in the transaction. That being said, are there any guidelines that need to be followed? IRS reporting requirements? Minimum interest rates or maximum borrowing thresholds?

I was looking to borrow approximately $150,000. I've structured an agreement with the other party to allow me to borrow this via an unsecured promissory note. Interest would be paid monthly to the other party for 6 months until the loan would be "due" where I would then pay the original principal back in full in a lump-sum payment.

My questions are as follows:

1. Do I need to have a minimum interest % applied to the loan? I've seen some mentions about applying the "applicable federal rate" established monthly by the IRS to the loan. The other party has verbally agreed to a lessor rate but we want to make sure we are being compliant. https://www.irs.gov/applicable...

2. Is there a proper channel that the money should be "disbursed"? Could this be sent as a wire to a checking account or business account? I want to make sure this does not raise any "red flags" even though the funds are legit and sourceable.

3. Does this need to be recorded anywhere? For example, does this need to be made public and will impact by DTI as it appears to lenders or could this be strictly structured "offline" between me and the other party?

4. Any other details I should know about going with this method of financing?

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

Thomas, you are so far in the weeds on this topic, I won't even bother to address specific concerns, other than the fact that private lending is far more complex than most understand from a distance, and completely devastating to an investment when done improperly. 

There are many institutional private lenders that will lend your money, manage the entire process, provide you the return you are seeking and create their own margin through arbitrage, origination fees, and other tools of the trade. 

Partner with an experienced lender via their 506(c) registered debt funds and enjoy a safe, passive, and worry-free return on your investment. 



Hi John, I think you've misread the post. I am not the lender in this scenario, I would be the borrower. 

You also mention that I am too far in the weeds and that I should shy away from private lending becase it is "more complex than people understand". However, the entire point of my post is to get a better understanding of how the private lending process works.

Appreciate the response though!


You are absolutely right; somehow I misread or skipped the "I was looking to borrow approximately $150,000." paragraph of your post. That makes me a shmuck. My apologies.  

Post: Interest on a Promissory Note?

John MorelliPosted
  • Lender
  • Deerfield, IL
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Thomas Sulz:

Hi All,

I am looking to fund some RE investments via private financing and had some general questions I was hoping the community could give me some feedback on.

Obviously, the terms around a private loan could be structured many different ways and ultimately be decided between both parties in the transaction. That being said, are there any guidelines that need to be followed? IRS reporting requirements? Minimum interest rates or maximum borrowing thresholds?

I was looking to borrow approximately $150,000. I've structured an agreement with the other party to allow me to borrow this via an unsecured promissory note. Interest would be paid monthly to the other party for 6 months until the loan would be "due" where I would then pay the original principal back in full in a lump-sum payment.

My questions are as follows:

1. Do I need to have a minimum interest % applied to the loan? I've seen some mentions about applying the "applicable federal rate" established monthly by the IRS to the loan. The other party has verbally agreed to a lessor rate but we want to make sure we are being compliant. https://www.irs.gov/applicable...

2. Is there a proper channel that the money should be "disbursed"? Could this be sent as a wire to a checking account or business account? I want to make sure this does not raise any "red flags" even though the funds are legit and sourceable.

3. Does this need to be recorded anywhere? For example, does this need to be made public and will impact by DTI as it appears to lenders or could this be strictly structured "offline" between me and the other party?

4. Any other details I should know about going with this method of financing?

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

Thomas, you are so far in the weeds on this topic, I won't even bother to address specific concerns, other than the fact that private lending is far more complex than most understand from a distance, and completely devastating to an investment when done improperly. 

There are many institutional private lenders that will lend your money, manage the entire process, provide you the return you are seeking and create their own margin through arbitrage, origination fees, and other tools of the trade. 

Partner with an experienced lender via their 506(c) registered debt funds and enjoy a safe, passive, and worry-free return on your investment. 


Post: Commercial Loan and Personal Guarentee

John MorelliPosted
  • Lender
  • Deerfield, IL
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 31
Quote from @David Elliott:
Quote from @Stephanie P.:

@David Elliott

When you personally guarantee the loan, it will be factored into your debt to income ratio.


 Thanks. I would have kicked myself for pulling the trigger on that.

The answer actually depends on how the loan agreement is executed, and how your LLC operating agreement is structured. You also mentioned the S-corp election - is this entity actively operating the real estate, or is it a pass-through? What State's laws are the LLC organized under? What percentage of ownership do you have in the LLC? Is the LLC Manager managed, or Member Managed? Are you executing commercial loan docs as the LLC's "Agent", "Manager", or "Memeber"? Single member LLC or multi-member?

I think you get the idea. 

Many commercial loans, SBA loans, and other debt that required a PG aren't automatically taken into consideration in your DTI for residential lending.

Post: Seasoned money question

John MorelliPosted
  • Lender
  • Deerfield, IL
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 31

@Calvin Boyd No seasoning of funds required, but the sourcing of funds will always be required by all lenders. Feel free to reach out directly if you have additional questions. 

Post: Commercial Insurance companies

John MorelliPosted
  • Lender
  • Deerfield, IL
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 31

@Dondi Sanchez This is our insurance partner for CRE, and has the lowest premiums for FL.

Jessica Foyer

Senior Commercial Lines Agent|Renegade Insurance

Direct: 731-345-4155 

Quote from @Dan Reece:

I have 2 commercial properties that I’m looking at Cash Out refinances for within 6 months after owning them for over a year. 

What’s the risk if I pursue my own commercial appraisal vs waiting on the bank to order it?


Almost all of my 7 commercial closing dates have been pushed due to waiting on appraisals. I think I’d rather have it in hand and be able to shop the refi around vs having the bank order it while they underwrite. I know this isn’t as common but I think it should give me more control. 

I understand I’ll need to front the cash for it but is there a time frame that they would expire? 
Is there anything else that I may be missing? 


What type of properties are you seeking the cash out refinances on?

Post: 80% LTV lender for Duplex

John MorelliPosted
  • Lender
  • Deerfield, IL
  • Posts 44
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Adrianna Harris:

Hi everyone, 

I am just starting my real estate journey and purchased my first investment property (duplex) in May 2022 in Buffalo New York. It was a complete rehab! 

First lesson learned: RUN YOUR NUMBERS!!!!

ugh I did not do my due diligence on this one. I trusted my "investor friendly" agent when he told me that this would be a good deal. He is one recommended here on BP and I was so eager to get started that I jumped in without doing my homework properly. 

Here are the number:

purchase price- $114

Rehab- $115

ARV: $260

Does anybody have any recommendations for lenders that will do 80% LTV fixed for 30 years (is that possible?) ?

I called one DSCR lender but they said they could only do 70% LTV.

any guidance would be appreciated. 

 Is the rehab completed and property ready for occupancy? Are you looking for cash out, or are you simply refinancing short term financing with permanent financing? 

Lending is the new owning for me. My partners and I have been extremely satisfied with our decision to deploy capital as private lenders, rather than acquiring more doors. Our ROE is far higher than we would ever achieve as passive investors, and although it requires perpetual, active participation, it's been highly rewarding in comparison to our individual and collective experiences as real estate investors.