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All Forum Posts by: John Timmerman

John Timmerman has started 3 posts and replied 27 times.

Quote from @Stephen Schmitt:

I agree with Joe, market value is what a buyer will pay. I have a feeling the 5 unit does not have a lot of comps. Every property is different, different location and condition. Find out what your targets are for cash flow, location and renovation costs, as a starting point. “Market value” is too subjective.

Thank you! 
Quote from @Dillon Cook:

We're talking 8 units here right? 50k a piece seems extremely cheap anywhere


 YEa its a single family, duplex and a 5-unit

Quote from @Stephen Schmitt:
FYI my number included 3% repair and 3% vacancy after listed expenses. Adding in 10% management is a 25% cash on cash, $47k net cash flow. If your numbers are wrong you need to figure that out. I also tripled insurance.

Thanks @Stephen Schmitt, I re did my calculations aside from the sellers document and came up with about $17k in annual cashflow after all expenses. CAC with $170k down is 10.5% (at $650k purchase price)

I see you're in Liverpool. Me too. Let's meet up soon.

@Joe Splitrock thanks for the feedback my friend! Maybe I am misusing "Market Value". $400k is what these properties would sell for on the residential market (primary residence) NOT as an investment property. I was only mentioning that to show the value when not including revenue potential.

Yes these numbers are very fluffy, I'll have to try to get actual numbers from last year.

Thanks @Martin Badinelli, The cap is listed by seller at 7.6%. Not sure if these screenshots are legible. @Jaron Walling @Michael Dumler net is a little above $60k, so you are saying $825k seems reasonable? (Syracuse market is at about 12% appreciation) 

@Jaron Walling seller is asking $825k, does that seem low? high? My real estate agent suggested offering $650k, but I'm trying to figure out how to calculate the value of a cash flowing property. How would you do it?

I'm in Syracuse, NY and have a portfolio of properties I'd like to buy. Market value for all 3 properties (1 single, 1 duplex, and a 5-unit) is about $400k; net cash flow is about $60k a year, and seller is asking $825k (which is very high).

What is fair and typical to pay for an existing investment property with tenants already cash flowing? 

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