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All Forum Posts by: Jonah Slove

Jonah Slove has started 15 posts and replied 62 times.

Post: Is there a deal here?

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Found a lead through an expired listing. Out of state owners who are renting the property currently for $1300. They had the property listed for sale for $319k, didn't sell. The own it outright now loan. They are looking to sell to buy a new rental property in CA where they live  but not in a rush to sell/buy. He told me they would do down to 265K which If I offer cash and we dont use agents maybe $240k. Anyway this could pencil out? The property could rent for 1600 -1800 depending. He said the current Tennants have taken very good care.

Post: Someone who has done a subject-to deal in SE Idaho

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Did you find anyone and close the deal? Im in SE Idaho looking to get connected to like minded folks 

Post: Time to sell?

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Quote from @James Hamling:
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@Jonah Slove I can't believe people would be so callous to say "don't sell" on a $1.3m property getting $2,500mnth in rent.    I guarantee not a single one of them would pay $1.3m for a property getting $2,500mnth in rent. I and most wouldn't even pay $500k. 

So it's a NO BRAINER, SELL! 

And if you don't have a need for the cash right now, be smart, 1031 it into something else. Something with better ratios of rent to price which will be VERY easy at this point compared to what you have now. 

I suggest to keep things simple. I'd buy new, keep it around median home price, think median rent's, a place people want to live and would be happy to pay rent to live. Simple. Keep it simple. Feel free to go 50% down, but use some leverage, enjoy a tenant making pay-down for you. 


 Ya thanks, it seems like a no brainer. Just having a tough time exploring what else is out there. My direct market isnt the norm as you can see. I would love to chat and hear what kind of strategy you would recommend. Thanks

Happy to chat, feel free to DM. 

For persons in general similar position, wondering "where do I go, what should I jump into" is the WORST way you can try to answer this, looking at all the various market's and deployment potentials first. 

What SHOULD be doing is starting with self-inventory. What your capabilities and expectations are. Are you ok with doing maintenance, or not? How much annual reinvestment in maintenance and cap-x is "ok"? Define this perimeter.     Are you ok with tenant issues or not? How much? Is greater of lessor potential of dealing with an eviction ok?     What is expectations of profit returns? No, DONT make it a per month number that's novice to point of grade-school, set a whole $ amount by yr 5 that is upward desire and minimum required. 

When you START with this self-inventory of capabilities and expectations, than we can take this list and map what it target's. It will define what property and tenant class are viable, what market's, rent ranges and unit pricing. It will even map out market's of viability. 

And than, it will tell one the criteria to weigh by, but what the viable options are so it becomes a choice between viable options instead of randomly saying "oh, which of the 14,000 potential market's do I explore". 

It's an action of using focus vs random chance. 

Generally today what I see for one of the greatest opportunity "zones" is in AAA strategy. Working in path-of-progress, sweat-heart terms from developers attaining sub-market rates, superior inventory, leading to superior tenancy and done correctly, superior returns. 

This market cycle is NOT on where a person looks to "buy a pay-check" which is exactly what one is doing when looking to buy some big cash-flow day 1. The vast majority of time what one get's is a big reoccurring operational expense to match. 

Keep in mind how active or passive you want to be or can be, are you a Landlord OR an Investor, they are 2 very different things that are the most jumbled skewed lines in business by novices/public in mass. 


 Makes a lot of sense. I really enjoyed reading through that Cash flow thread I saw you on. That really changed my perception of expectations. Sending you a DM. Thanks!

Post: Time to sell?

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Quote from @James Hamling:

@Jonah Slove I can't believe people would be so callous to say "don't sell" on a $1.3m property getting $2,500mnth in rent.    I guarantee not a single one of them would pay $1.3m for a property getting $2,500mnth in rent. I and most wouldn't even pay $500k. 

So it's a NO BRAINER, SELL! 

And if you don't have a need for the cash right now, be smart, 1031 it into something else. Something with better ratios of rent to price which will be VERY easy at this point compared to what you have now. 

I suggest to keep things simple. I'd buy new, keep it around median home price, think median rent's, a place people want to live and would be happy to pay rent to live. Simple. Keep it simple. Feel free to go 50% down, but use some leverage, enjoy a tenant making pay-down for you. 


 Ya thanks, it seems like a no brainer. Just having a tough time exploring what else is out there. My direct market isnt the norm as you can see. I would love to chat and hear what kind of strategy you would recommend. Thanks

Post: Cleveland OR Toledo?

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How is the rental market? Average tenant term?

Post: Possible Owner Carry

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

Nah, it's the same everywhere.  It IS hard to get started.  It's a grind.

I don't like this as a first time deal and I don't think the numbers work.


 What don't you like and can you break down the numbers scenario you are using? Appreciate the feedback, good practice for me.

Post: Possible Owner Carry

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Ya I hear that. The sale price well below the market value is appealing. It seems like potentially a good deal! I am looking for a few deals to get started with but not having success in my area. Idaho is a different market than I see most people posting about.

Post: Possible Owner Carry

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

Is it 100K below market value because it needs 100K worth of work?


 No from what I've seen it looks clean. 100k off so he can stay on the property. He can also be property manager.

Post: Wholesaler in Idaho

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Hey y'all, I'm looking for a wholesaler in Idaho. Anywhere in the state, let's connect!

Post: Possible Owner Carry

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Found a FSBO SFR that the owner is selling 100k, or so, below market value. He sent me the appraisal from 6 months ago for $370k and CMA's are around $350k. He is asking $270k with the agreement that he can continue to live in his camper trailer on the back portion of the lot for 10 years. If I sell the property before 10 years I own him $10k per year.

The property currently rents for $1700 with a long term tenant who wants to stay, and he hasn't raised rent in 2-3 years. How does this sound?

I have cash and HELOC available to make this a cash deal and was pre-approved with 20% down. What other options make sense? I would like to pull most of my cash out ASAP. Would a hard money lender loan 75% of the appraised value? If bought with cash either mine or HML is there a seasoning period or could I cash out refi ASAP? What other options are out there?