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All Forum Posts by: Jordan Ray

Jordan Ray has started 24 posts and replied 380 times.

Post: contractor is threatening to take me to court

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Marc Shin:

I've been working with a contractor on some renovations and they are threatening to take me to court.  We do not have any signed contracts in place.  What we have is a good spreadsheet with a list of tasks, and as they perform the tasks, I've been paying him via Zelle.  I did not pay him the final amount (less that $2K) because he did not finish the job according to my satisfaction.  Can he really take me to court when we do not have any contract in place?   I live out of state from my property. What should I do?

I would just go ahead and pay him the $2,000 and get it in writing that he will not pursue you going forward and then set better systems & expectations in place to avoid this problem in the future, lesson learned. I personally have my contractor sign a "Independent Contractor Agreement" and I will have it specify the dollar amount of the renovations in the agreement and attach the scope of work to it. I will also specify that any additional work must be approved in writing. I also am sure to collect W9's from my contractors to make sure they don't try to not pay taxes on the money I paid them to get over on me that way.

Post: "Which out-of-state cities are good for investing now?"

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Celine Li:

Hi everyone,

My name is Celine, and I live in Los Angeles. I've been learning about real estate investing and am ready to take action on my first out-of-state property using the BRRRR method (with plans for short-term rentals). I have enough cash to invest and am considering cities like Indianapolis, IN; Cincinnati, OH; Cleveland, OH; Atlanta, GA; and Charlotte, NC.

I’m looking to purchase houses around $300K, with the intention of fixing them up. For experienced out-of-state investors, where have you invested? Which cities and areas do you think have the greatest potential for appreciation?

Thanks in advance for sharing your insights!


Hey Celine, from my understanding its very difficult to grow a portfolio of short term rentals using the BRRRR method as an out of state investor. The biggest challenge is finding a team you can trust that will run the business for you because its not passive at all. I haven't heard of any property managers in any market that will manage your short term rentals but I could be wrong. Let me know if you have any interest in LTRs and I could help you find plenty of BRRRR deals with under $100K in Memphis, TN. Best of luck to you!

Post: Newbie & long distance

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Radhika S.:

Hi!

I am starting out newbie, have young kids, have been a homemaker, but now want to do more for the family financially while also being available for my family. After reading & researching, I have decided to take the real estate route, read 'Rental Property Investing" and came out with the plan to buy single family homes LTR cash flow. I live in California, but being the market it is, I want to invest outside. I have garnered a 50K to get started, I am having difficulty choosing markets, although I have shortlisted it to be a 'landlord friendly state". It looks so wide and vast, I am overwhelmed and don't know where to start. I have been reading the forums out here but how should I narrow down to that one market?

I also tried biggerpockets/wheretostart, but for some reason the .xls would constantly keep opening skype files. What am I doing wrong here?

What should be my next step to narrow down and research?

I am also beginning to talk to CPAs and attorneys, but not sure What all questions I should have cleared at a minimum, to confidently take the big step.

I may be over thinking, but I think it is also the cautious me who does not want to screw up financially in my desire to help the family financially.

The 1st step would be to slow down and just focus on finding a market. Try using the BiggerPockets "Market finder" and see where that brings you and then just talk with agents in the market you pick and narrow down these options by relying on market local contacts to guide you. Continue to do your research and also ask ChatGPT questions as well as I have been finding Ai to be super useful for research lately. Hope that helps! Goodluck investing!

btw you can buy at least 2 properties in Memphis TN with $50K using the BRRRR method. Let me know if you would like to chat about this!

Post: When to get a property manager

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Mike Sfera:

If I'm a first time rental investor, will I be able to hire a property manager to help me with research, etc. prior to getting my first property or will they only work with you if you already have a property?


I would say that it depends on the PM, I personally have a great connection with my local property manager in Memphis, TN and he manages over 700 doors and still answers my clients property management specific questions as the broker/owner.

Post: RE Lawyer local to property state best practice?

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Samer Jaber:

Hi BP Community,

I’m looking into my first out-of-state multi-family partnership with someone that already has experience in the local market and connections to the operational teams required to make out of state investing successful. I am debating using my local lawyer vs. finding a lawyer in the state where the property is located. Is it too much of a hurdle for the Local, Esq. to review the local law? Obviously this depends on whether Local, Esq. is willing to do it (and whether there is a state-specific bar requirement just for this type of work), but I want an outside perspective first.

Thanks,

Looking in Baltimore


Hey Samer, are you exploring Markets?

Post: Chicago vs the world: Forgone opportunities?

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Craig Sparling:

I've been investing in Chicago for almost 15 years.  I've been incredibly lucky with tenants, turnover, properties, appreciation, connections etc.

That said I do occasionally find myself wondering, what if....

If I had bought in Florida or Texas or a booming college town.  Would slow and steady be replaced with meteoric?

Am I suffering from greener grass syndrome, or should I have "Lived where I want to live and invested where the money made sense."? What do you think the best "markets that got away" are?


 Craig! That's great your portfolio is working out! I would say to just keep doing what your doing, do you want to deal with bad tenants, evictions, unpaid rent, tenant complaints, tenant negligence, lawsuits, etc? Probably not. Don't stop doing something if it works! 

Post: Let's say you have $80K in your savings account...

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Jennifer Fernéz:

Let's say you are a brand new investor. You are 40 years old and you have a family. You have $80K in your savings account, and you decide you want to invest in real estate.

Knowing what you know now, what would you do with your 80K? How would you make it grow the quickest?


Great question, Jennifer! My favorite way to scale my portfolio is by using the BRRRR method and placing section 8 tenants in my rentals. For acquisition, I use my local hard money lender that holds the best loan product with a 100% purchase/100% rehab hard money loan! This allows me to be under $10K per property in Memphis, TN. So personally, I would buy about 5 properties and keep the rest as reserves on each deal. Let me know if I can help you scale your portfolio in Memphis, TN!

Post: Umbrella Insurance policy.

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Chas Lumley:

Hey all,

I'm looking to make an offer on my first rental this week and was wanting to get different inputs on LLC vs Umbrella policies.

I will be using a conventional loan and I was told by my loan officer that I can not buy the property under an LLC, but I could transfer to an LLC after acquiring.

This is just a duplex, so my total number of rental units will just be 2. I own my own house and I own some land out of state, so I have assets I want protected.

I have quotes and will be purchasing an insurance policy that provides 1 million in landlord liability and I can also purchase an additional 1 million in an umbrella policy.

My question is, is it even possible, or has anyone heard of a landlord getting sued and losing over $2 million on a simple duplex? I feel like I'd have to do something crazy negligent to even possibly have a lawsuit that severe. 

All inputs are appreciated.

Thanks!

I personally still quit claim to my LLC after closing. (Just don't tell your lender that you are going to do that) The umbrella policy is an extra layer. I have my umbrella policy through USAA. It covers all of my rentals up to a certain amount. Hope that helps!

Post: Real estate investors in hot spring arkansas

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Christopher Hall:

Hi all! 

My husband and I live in San Antonio and have been investing in real estate for a couple years. My father in law lives in hot spring and we go visit him once or twice a year. We are looking into investing in Hot Spring and hope to make some connection with local investors. Are there any investors meet up there? We also would like to see if we can find an awesome agent to help us with this out of state investing journey. 

Thanks


I bet that's a good short term rental market! You might benefit from using the agent finder in BiggerPockets

Post: Out of state Real Estate Agent/Investors

Jordan Ray
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 398
  • Votes 188
Quote from @Niece Ervin:

I totally get what you mean about Facebook groups being more wholesaler-focused, but I’ve also seen some great discussions on BiggerPockets around wholesaling. It’s interesting how different platforms can have such varying groups, but I’m curious how others have been able to connect with agents who are more wholesaler-friendly on BiggerPockets.


Any agent can be "wholesaler friendly" but you have to be sure your bringing value. Wholesaling is a tricky game when working with agents because we don't want a reputation of working with them in our local market because when we are working with an actual buyer, a bad reputation of wholesalers not closing deals can be detrimental to an agents reputation. Wholesaler's don't really have to worry about reputation because you can just change up your business to a new branding or change markets, we can't do that. We also have ethical & legal standards to follow. Wholesalers don't really have to worry about losing a license because it doesn't exist. Just something to think about. Hopefully this makes sense.