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All Forum Posts by: Josh Folsom

Josh Folsom has started 4 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: The "Hamm" House Flip

Josh FolsomPosted
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Right now I have another one under contract to buy. It's in the same part of town. My goal is to transition into doing the flipping more full time, while simultaneously doing some BRRRRs in other markets. 

Post: The "Hamm" House Flip

Josh FolsomPosted
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Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment in Nashville.

Purchase price: $123,000
Cash invested: $72,000
Sale price: $220,000

This is my second flip in North Nashville, and actually the second one of the exact same house floorplans. This house was 704 sq ft, 2 bedroom 1 bath. Great floor plan in my opinion to flip because they are so small that its hard for the original builders to mess much up. You have very little plumbing to go wrong, its real easy to rewire if need be, and typically the flooring system is pretty solid. Exceptions to everything of course.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I think this is a great area to invest that is just going to keep developing.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found it on the mls. We made an offer and they said this multiple offers they were to require a best and highest. They did not accept ours. Until about 2 weeks later they asked if we were still interested. So they ended up accepting our first offer.

How did you finance this deal?

Cash and a HELOC.

How did you add value to the deal?

Adding a Laundry room, and general restoration.

What was the outcome?

All in all we are proud of what we did to the house. Some people in the area buy the same house and just leave the vinyl siding on, and that's fine but that's not the kind of work I'm looking to do. I want to put a quality house on the market to get top dollar because I know its the best house of its kind. Always real hardwoods, granite, and new appliances. Sometimes some of the things don't pay for themselves, but its worth it to me to know I did everything the way I would want it in my house.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

The idea of not adding any square footage was fine, if its a quick flip. Because I'm doing it all on the side it took me too long. We ended up having to replace just about everything. New roof, siding and soffit, plumbing, complete electrical, insulation, hvac, and of course all the kitchen and bathroom. I don't regret making all the repairs, but I think the downside is that if you are going to do all those things you don't have economies of scale in footage to help up the sales price.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yeah our agent Emily Pritchard with Village Realty is great! Especially in that part of town, but just good in general. I would highly recommend her as a buying or selling agent.

Post: The "Hamm" House Flip

Josh FolsomPosted
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  • Votes 4

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment in Nashville.

Purchase price: $123,000
Cash invested: $72,000
Sale price: $220,000

This is my second flip in North Nashville, and actually the second one of the exact same house floorplans. This house was 704 sq ft, 2 bedroom 1 bath. Great floor plan in my opinion to flip because they are so small that its hard for the original builders to mess much up. You have very little plumbing to go wrong, its real easy to rewire if need be, and typically the flooring system is pretty solid. Exceptions to everything of course.

The last one we added on to making it a 3 bed 2 bath, but this one we decided to just fix it up as is. The only adding we did was a front porch roof, and we took the existing foundation for the back porch and storage room and converted it into a laundry/mud room. After that the house ended up being a 2/1 754 sq ft.

The idea of not adding any square footage was fine, however the whole flip was supposed to be quicker and easier. Because I'm doing it all on the side it took me too long, (which isn't that what everyone says) and we ended up having to replace just about everything. New roof, siding and soffit, plumbing, complete electrical, insulation, hvac, and of course all the kitchen and bathroom. I don't regret making all the repairs, but I think the downside is that if you are going to do all those things and not add square footage, you don't have the economies of scale to make up the ending sales price. So for probably $20k more I could have added 500 more square feet which would have upped the sales price $60k. So you're probably asking, duh why didn't you do that? Well one, it was an experiment, and two if you do this flip in 3 months to pocket 15-20k then its not bad. This one took about 9 months time even though I was only able to work on it for maybe 2 or 3 months. (How I'm running my business/investments leaves some to be desired for sure. I get it.)

All in all we are proud of what we did to the house. Some people in the area buy the same house and just leave the vinyl siding on, and that's fine but that's not the kind of work I'm looking to do. I want to put a quality house on the market to get top dollar because I know its the best house of its kind. Always real hardwoods, granite, and new appliances. Sometimes some of the things don't pay for themselves, but its worth it to me to know I did everything the way I would want it in my house. Because of this I feel is why we were able to get asking price offer in 5 days with an easy close.

Thanks for reading,
Josh

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I think this is a great area to invest that is just going to keep developing.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found it on the mls. We made an offer and they said this multiple offers they were to require a best and highest. They did not accept ours. Until about 2 weeks later they asked if we were still interested. So they ended up accepting our first offer.

How did you finance this deal?

Cash and a HELOC.

How did you add value to the deal?

Adding a Laundry room, and general restoration.

What was the outcome?

Took too long but had a great sale experience with low days on the market.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Probably need to add more square footage to such a small house. That was the main complaint at the open house. Need to do a little better job looking at the history of the house. Turns out the power hadn't been on for 7 years. It was fully furnished so we had no idea.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yeah our agent Emily Pritchard with Village Realty is great! Especially in that part of town, but just good in general. I would highly recommend her as a buying or selling agent.

Post: The best way to finance a MFU

Josh FolsomPosted
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I am looking into a buying part of someones portfolio that includes a 9 unit and a 6 unit. All are currently rented and all the numbers seem to make a lot of sense. 1.5% rent to purchase, should cash flow almost $3000 a month. My question is what is the best way to go about financing them? Up to now I have only done smaller fix and flips all with a HELOC and cash so I've had control over the money. If all of the units are currently under lease, will the bank use 75% of the rent towards the payment just like they do on a single family? I have 25% to put down on $600k but obviously would not qualify for a normal loan that big. So I guess what I'm asking is should I try to get conventional financing before I buy or try to get Hard Money to buy and season for six months then go to the bank? Thanks for any advice

Originally posted by @Darnell Butler:

Love the post Josh! Glad you made some money on the deal, but the lessons learned are probably what were most valuable! We do a lot of work in that North Nashville area, would love to connect!

 Thanks Darnell. Yeah I really like a lot of north Nashville and the way it is developing. What kind of work do you do? 

Yeah I'd love to talk. I've been looking for another since I sold this one and haven't found one where the numbers made sense. I love this little 704 sq ft floor plan. I think they are pretty well built and easy to add on to.

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment.

Purchase price: $125,000
Cash invested: $75,000
Sale price: $270,000

I bought this small 704 sq ft house in a developing neighborhood. I added 512 sq ft to the back of the house making it a 3 bedroom 2 bath. We completely renovated the existing house only leaving the drywall on the walls and the hardwood floors. We added a driveway and fenced in the backyard and ended up selling it after about 35 days on the market for asking price.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Its the business that I'm in, always for other people, so I thought it was time to take my skills and combine it with the hot market in Nashville Tennessee.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I had a real estate agent I was working with, however I found most of the properties we looked at myself on Redfin and Realtor Apps. I found the house and the day we looked at the house it went under contract. So I told the agent I wanted to put in a backup offer which almost never works, but this time the first buyer fell through and I was able to make the deal. I ended up paying asking price.

How did you finance this deal?

I have a HELOC on my personal residence I was able to use to finance the sale and renovations with.

How did you add value to the deal?

Adding square footage was the biggest way. But adding some curb appeal and putting emphasis on the kitchen and bathrooms.

What was the outcome?

We didn't get finished as quickly as we wanted but still had enough summer left to not have to wait too long with it on the market. We made some money on it but probably the lessons learned were more valuable.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We learned a little more about where to spend the money on high end things and where not to. We also just kind of figured out what kind of renovated house we wanted to put our names on. We spent more doing things right (or overdoing them) but in the end the home inspection list was very short and the closing process was easy.