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All Forum Posts by: Julien Jeannot

Julien Jeannot has started 6 posts and replied 750 times.

Post: I own condo with cash - Should I sell with owner financing?

Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
  • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
  • Posts 757
  • Votes 1,043

@Adam Foley

Welcome to BP.

I would recommend starting with the end goal in mind. What are you looking to achieve in the Real Estate investment space, then work you way backwards.

Couple areas to consider

- Passive vs active

- Risk tolerance

- Cash flow vs equity plays

- Tax implications

Post: Commercial Lease Agreement

Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
  • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
  • Posts 757
  • Votes 1,043

@Rosa Le

I agree with the rest of the feedback. Grab an experienced attorney in the space. Given the length of the leases, you'll want the peace of mind and the tools to accomplish your goals.

Remember, the DIY approach is risky when going up against seasoned professionals. You don't know what you don't know and can sign contracts which opens you to risk or are unfavorable.

Post: What would you do? Single Primary vs Several Rentals

Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
  • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
  • Posts 757
  • Votes 1,043
Quote from @Benjamin Sulka:
Quote from @Julien Jeannot:
Quote from @Tychua G.:
Quote from @Julien Jeannot:

@Tychua G.

I'd combine option 1 & 2 and house hack a multi family 2-4 units.

That's how I started and it worked out wonderfully. You get all the benefits of the two options.


I see this as a popular option amongst a lot of early investors.  Can you go into more details about the time frame on breakeven and how long before you moved into your next unit or upgraded primary?  Appreciate your input!


 Sure, keep in mind there are a lot of factors that does into the results. I'll provide a bit of context with first duplex house hack.

Goals

  1. Start building a rental portfolio
  2. Needed a place to live and did not want to rent
  3. Safe location
  4. Subsidized living (house hack)
  5. Garage
  6. Privacy
  7. Able to commute to work
  8. Value add play that I could do myself or hire a contractor without breaking the bank

Solution

  • Property: Duplex
  • Condition: Cosmetic rehab & rents under market
  • Neighborhood: 1970ish, safe, long but doable commute
  • Garage, big yard & subdividable – will build DADU eventually
  • Did not match any of the of the “standard” rules. Ex: the 1%.

Results over time (5+ yrs)

  • · 2x equity
  • · Cash flows $1500/mo
  • · Fully rehabbed
  • · Used a HELOC to finance another property's rehab

Left 3 years in because the wife and I needed more space. At that point with rehab and rent increases the one unit covered all operating expenses and debt service. Did not cover reserves.

Then we bought a primary house. Used a HELOC to do a cosmetic rehab and convert the downstairs into an ADU to VRBO. Later refied to a better rate on the primary and paid off the HELOC.

     @Julien Jeannot What did your financials look like when you first moved into this property? You mentioned that it did not meet the 1% rule so I'm curious how much you were paying out of pocket. Great post as always 


     Yr1 => ($36k) net cash flow. $Value 272.5k

    -$11.4k Rev

    -$18k PITI

    -$25k rehab unit 1

    -$2.4k R&M

    Yr2 => ($10.4k) net cash flow. 1 unit rented

    Yr5=>$10.7k net cash flow. 2 units rented & fully rehabbed

    Yr9 => $24k net cash flow. 2 units rented & fully rehabbed. Value $800k.

    Post: What would you do? Single Primary vs Several Rentals

    Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
    • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
    • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
    • Posts 757
    • Votes 1,043

    @Tychua G.

    Just about on the rates.

    Same play book. I've got 3 properties I'm prepping for sale to 103x into something bigger in Q1 of 2024. If rates goes up, then I secure a lower rate, if they come down, I refi and better the cash flow. 

    If rates coming down, it will push demand in the market and drive equity up so I could also refi cash out and maintain a similar cashflow.

    I'm more interested in the properties then the rates, finding deals is the hard part.

    Post: What would you do? Single Primary vs Several Rentals

    Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
    • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
    • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
    • Posts 757
    • Votes 1,043
    Quote from @Tychua G.:
    Quote from @Julien Jeannot:

    @Tychua G.

    I'd combine option 1 & 2 and house hack a multi family 2-4 units.

    That's how I started and it worked out wonderfully. You get all the benefits of the two options.


    I see this as a popular option amongst a lot of early investors.  Can you go into more details about the time frame on breakeven and how long before you moved into your next unit or upgraded primary?  Appreciate your input!


     Sure, keep in mind there are a lot of factors that does into the results. I'll provide a bit of context with first duplex house hack.

    Goals

    1. Start building a rental portfolio
    2. Needed a place to live and did not want to rent
    3. Safe location
    4. Subsidized living (house hack)
    5. Garage
    6. Privacy
    7. Able to commute to work
    8. Value add play that I could do myself or hire a contractor without breaking the bank

    Solution

    • Property: Duplex
    • Condition: Cosmetic rehab & rents under market
    • Neighborhood: 1970ish, safe, long but doable commute
    • Garage, big yard & subdividable – will build DADU eventually
    • Did not match any of the of the “standard” rules. Ex: the 1%.

    Results over time (5+ yrs)

    • · 2x equity
    • · Cash flows $1500/mo
    • · Fully rehabbed
    • · Used a HELOC to finance another property's rehab

    Left 3 years in because the wife and I needed more space. At that point with rehab and rent increases the one unit covered all operating expenses and debt service. Did not cover reserves.

    Then we bought a primary house. Used a HELOC to do a cosmetic rehab and convert the downstairs into an ADU to VRBO. Later refied to a better rate on the primary and paid off the HELOC.

      Post: Is it worth taking on negative cash flow multi family starting out ($-200 a month)?

      Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
      • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
      • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
      • Posts 757
      • Votes 1,043

      @Corby Goade

      Sounds like we have a similar story. 

      Post: New BiggerPockets Member

      Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
      • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
      • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
      • Posts 757
      • Votes 1,043

      Post: Im confused on the 1 year rule

      Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
      • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
      • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
      • Posts 757
      • Votes 1,043

      @Viral Jhayyy

      Most loan clauses refers to the intent to live in the property for 1 year.

      Do consult with a lender, there are downsides to using a strategy where you move out before the year is up on all of your purchases.

      Post: With High Rates Does Any Cash Flow = Buy

      Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
      • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
      • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
      • Posts 757
      • Votes 1,043

      @Matt VanGorder

      I play the long term game, my strategies play out the 3-5 year game. 

      When you start taking the flow in to account, especially in the 10 to 15 year range, the metrics seem unreal:

      - Value add strategy

      - YOY increases in rents & expenses

      - Principal pay down

      -Conservative appreciation

      With that approach, I found I'm buying base hits and growing wealth while others sit on the side looking the "best" returns.

      Post: First Time Searching for Tenants

      Julien Jeannot#4 House Hacking ContributorPosted
      • CPA, Real Estate Broker & Investor
      • Seattle & Woodinville, WA
      • Posts 757
      • Votes 1,043

      @Christopher Morris

      I use Zillow and sometimes facebook.

      Here are a few items top of mind:

      -1 year leases

      -Have a written criteria up front. Plenty of good examples online w/explainations

      -Become an expert in your local regulations and fair housing laws