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All Forum Posts by: Ke Nan Wang

Ke Nan Wang has started 6 posts and replied 271 times.

Post: Mentorship for a beginner

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  • St. Augustine, FL
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I think the best way to go about seeking "free" mentorship is to find a market you want to invest in and start talking to Realtors in that market. A seasoned investor/Realtor who values relationship does not mind give you some free time in a hope that some day down the road, you will use them to close a deal. But doing it this way you need to either have a nest egg saved up or have a good paying job with a prequalification letter in hand. 

If you don't have much money yet, I would advise you to save money to that point. 

There is a way of investing in real estate using other people's money (OPM) but it's very difficult to do and most likely require you to pay some coaching program to get it started. 

Post: Home in Flood Zone

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Historically does it flood in that area and how bad is it when it gets flooded? You get the best info simply from talking to neighbors who have lived in the area for a long time, preferably have seen the last few big storms. 

We have built and held new construction short term rentals in a flood zone area. We have historic data showed the neighborhood get some water, but never flooded badly in the last 2 decades even with some big storms and hurricanes that heavily flooded other areas in town. We built the house as high as we can. Did FEMA flood elevation survey and have a pretty profitable run with that property so far. Have had a couple bad storms this year but nothing came close (knock on wood).

Check out the project here:

https://www.knancorp.com/617-sands-dr

Post: Wholesaling Business Model Idea

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It's a viable idea, the devil is in the execution. 

1. Every homeowner is bombarded with "we buy your house" junk mails, text messages, spam phone calls every day, so how are you differentiate yourself from a million other wholesalers in the market?

2. Most people work with real estate agents that's what they know and it's a regulated industry. Wholesaling is a wild west, if you work with people you trust, fine, but there are also bunch of scam artists/liers out there, the less sophisticated buyers can get hurt easily if they don't know how to screen wholesalers

2.5 same as every other contractors, handing out flyers, door knocking. The key is repeat business. Consistent quality that makes the customer happy, within their budget, and make you money, how? Are you gonna have your own employees you can control or do you just sub it out to contractors who may or may not show? now you have people just call you, complain...

3. How do you quality control the contractor? The good ones charge good money, cheap ones don't show up or do good work. So you are basically being a contractor and how much spread are you making?

4. Assume it's a $30 lawn cut job, how much are you charging the customer and how much are you selling it to the contractor? Is it worth the money for you to be responsible for a job and only make a small percentage? What's your license and insurance to allow you to do the contract legally? How and when are you and your contractor get paid? Again, contractors also get called from people who sell leads too, so how are you different than the rest? Are you charging less per lead? or do you get paid a percentage when the contractor get paid? 

5. So just like every wholesaler out there. 

6. just like every wholesaler out there.

7. It's called assignment of contract and get an assignment fee. same thing

All in all, it's a wholesaling game with a little extra services thrown in. The execution would be the same as wholesaling. 

One of my wholesaler friend is doing this but instead of trying to make money on the service side, he genuinely does it to help out the seller and not upcharge anything or even invest his own money if it's something small like clean up the property. 6-12 months down the road, he builds a good relationship with the seller and gets to buy the property from the seller. I feel like his way feels more genuine and viable than your idea proposed. 

Post: 20yr old Just Got My Real Estate License - Need some advice + tips for lead gen.

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The biggest disadvantage you have is your age and I'm assuming you look and act like a 20 year old too. If you look and act way beyond your age then disregard what I just said. 

So many advise here are your normal traditional real estate coaching advise but most people do not trust a 20 year old to handle their real estate asset unless you've already built a brand for yourself (not applicable) or they are really going out of their way to do you a favor. Opportunities like that is not something you can count on. 

I would recommend first, greatly strengthen your David Green's defense pillar, meaning, live a very very lean lifestyle, every expense has to be a very conscious decision. 

Then with a lean lifestyle, this allow you to work for a good team that can offer to teach/coach you lead gen and sales and you worry less about the commission split because you have less bill to pay. Your few years, do not worry about your income, value your education and building good relationship with people no matter where you go. Say yes to everything, show up with enthusiasm. When you become valuable to others and have a good network of people, you income will grow naturally.  

Post: I dont need a Rude coach

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Hi Kristine, I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I would say that only a very small percentage of the people here are the real deal. Even many "experts" who have appeared on your favorite podcast aren't as successful in reality as they portrayed themselves on the podcast, let alone a stranger from a forum. Don't let it discourage you.

I can tell you that you can learn 90% of the things you need to get started for free or at very little cost (<$100, mostly from books and go to local real estate networking events). If you're just starting out, there's plenty of free content available to teach you before you reach the level where it makes sense to invest in a coach or join a "mastermind" group (personally, I strongly dislike that term).

Post: Property Ownership, Tax Implications, and Family Business Collaboration

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As long as that business reports the income and you report the expense there is no conflict. 

We own a construction company and a rental property portfolio. We don't use our construction company to generate an invoice against our rental portfolio unless we want to show more income of our construction business for the reason of either applying for a loan or increase EBITA to boost up valuation of the company. Everything performed on a property is a straight up expense paid to the vendors or subcontractors. 

Post: Got a quote for maintenance work, am I being overcharged?

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Quote from @Gurjot Grewal:

Bought this home back in April. There's a tenant living in it and he's been there for 3years. The home is in pretty good condition interior and exterior. I was thinking I would reinvest some of the rental income to make some minor repairs/maintenance around the home. This is a long distance investment, and the quote is from a handyman. He was referred to me by a trusted local contact and also has good reviews online. 

-Gutters cleaning: $350 

-fix broken downspout: $300 

-fix loose siding: $250 

-carbon monoxide detector: $125

-bath silicone: $100 

-deck boards: 3-4 are bad need to be replaced 

What does everyone think. Is this a fair price? 

edit: home is a 900sq ft rancher

I think they are all pretty reasonable to me. Some stuff you can fix it yourself for much cheaper. Personally, I would have him do the gutter cleaning, fix loose siding, replace deck boards. 

Downspout depend on the section, the lower ends are very easy to replace, if it's higher up then it's a bit more involved but still not hard. 

The material for the downspout, carbon monoxide detector and bath silicone altogether is less than $100. So paying $425 in labor to do some simple stuff, I would do it myself but if you make lots of money somewhere else and don't want to deal with it, I understand that as well. 

Side note: Keep in mind some items are naturally low profit margin work and some are high profit margin work. Some people don't mind letting you decide what to do a la cart. But people do this to make money. So if you are looking for a long term relationship, it's best to workout a win-win situation. Sure you can always beat down someone on the price one time but if they didn't make money from you, why would they want to help you in the future? 

Post: BPCON 2023 Orlando meetup

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First time for me too. Let's meet up and chat. I'm looking forward to this as well. 

Post: How to Find More Homes to Fix & Flip?

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Quote from @Mark Williams:
Quote from @Josh H.:

Hello BiggerPockets Community,

I am in a little bit of a situation and looking for help. My wife and I have been flipping homes for the last three years, we have flipped 30 houses with all of them being profitable. My wife quit her job to focus on Real Estate about 1.5 years ago, due to no longer being able to work in the corporate world. I have been helping her manage the contractors on the weekends, and going out to the properties to do some work as they were being prepared to sell. 

A couple of months ago, I got laid off from my job that paid $100K+ per year. We figured that we could sustain and maintain our lifestyle by doubling down efforts on flipping - especially since we have a little more than a year's worth of money, if we did no more flips in that time. However, we have worked very hard to build that capital and don't want to spend through it. We need more flips!

The problem is we have found it very hard to find good flips over the last few months in the Washington DC, VA and MD area. With construction cost, material cost and the houses (even in bad condition) cost an amount that the flips are not profitable. We are checking off market sources (such as Facebook groups) as well as the MLS. The deals are just so hard to come by, and they get bid up to where they are not profitable.

How can we find more houses to flip? 

Any advice would be very appreciated.



 Hi Josh, 

Thank you for sharing your situation and the challenges you're facing in the real estate market. It's clear that you and your wife have done an impressive job with your flipping ventures, and your wife appears to be adept at managing the business.

Given the current difficulties in finding profitable flips in the Washington DC, VA, and MD area, it might be worth considering a shift in roles within your partnership. Your experience and earning potential from your previous job, which paid over $100K a year, can play a crucial role in supporting the business.

One possible approach could be for you to explore employment opportunities again while your wife continues to lead the flipping business. This can help you maintain your financial stability and protect the hard-earned capital you've built. Your income from a regular job could also be used to finance the flips, ensuring that you have a steady source of funds for the business.

This division of labor could provide the business with a more sustainable and balanced approach. Your expertise could still be invaluable in terms of financial management, risk assessment, and long-term business planning along with helping your wife on the weekends. 

It's important to have an open and honest conversation with your wife about this possibility and evaluate how this arrangement would best serve your financial goals and the overall well-being of your family. Remember that adaptation and flexibility are essential in navigating challenging markets. Wishing you both the best of luck in your endeavors."

 I second this. Try your best to find another employment is the most secured option, even if you had to take a little pay cut. 

The reality is this, the market is going soft, so your ARVs are coming down. But sellers aren't seeing it that way yet, so it will take sometime, maybe a year, for sellers to come to reality that those prices are not feasible anymore. 

You could double down on your entrepreneur journey and try to make it work, it will be nerve racking until you make it through. Are you and your wife committed to walk that path? 

Post: Lending fell through... need help

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Quote from @Andy Connelly:

Thank you for the response, Ryan. A detail I should have included is that this has been a private sale so our agent is ALSO the seller's agent. Does that change how I should approach this? I'm not sure. Although not ideal, I'm OK with giving up the earnest money. I just don't want this to turn into a legal matter.


Still speak to the agent and if both parties sign the release and cancellation form with the EMD go to the seller, you will be released from all future liabilities. I don't think the seller would not take the EMD and take you to court. Much easier for the seller to take the EMD and move on to the next buyer.