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All Forum Posts by: Kevin S.

Kevin S. has started 8 posts and replied 22 times.

Originally posted by @Joshua Romero:

Good afternoon everyone,

I was wondering if anyone has ever purchased properties or dealt with Abigail Land Holdings? They have llc's all over the country. They seem to invest in tax liens. A SFH that I have had my eye own for awhile seems to now be owned by them according to the tax assessors website. They must have met the 3 year grace period for anyone to come forward, and taken ownership.

The original owner is deceased, and has been for a few years. He had no mortgage, and no kids or wife. He also had no will. He was my grandpa’s neighbor for many years. It seems to be a good house for my first investment, but I’m not sure how to proceed. Are these type of companies interested in keeping the properties long term, or do they just want their investment back plus interest? Any advice is greatly appreciated.


Hello Josh,

I 'm curious to hear how your experience went. Did you go through with pursuing this lead? Most of the tax lien investment companies are invested in these certificates for the purpose of earning interest. In my experience they don't usually pursue getting the treasurer's deed. I too have purchased a few tax lien properties from other investors primarily here in the state Colorado.

-Kevin

@Ryan Denman

Thanks Ryan. I have already done most of my due diligence. I'm looking to invest for the purpose of foreclosing on the properties. They are vacant parcels. I have done 2 tax lien investments in the past in this way (wholesale from another investor) but need additional guidance or recommendation specific to the contract or purchase agreement side of things. I'm not 100% comfortable sending money to someone I don't even know without having some king of assurance like a signed agreement in place first. Feel free to send me the info on Dan Murray. I'm always trying to learn more! Thanks again.

Hello All,

Recently I've been in contact with a tax lien investment company based out of Florida (I'm in Colorado) and am looking to purchase a few of their tax lien certificates. I was wondering what the recommended documentation is for this type of purchase?---i.e. would it be a contract or purchase agreement? What all do investors typically use? My funds for the purchase are likely to be sent via certified check or wire transfer. I appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Kevin

Post: Federal IRS Tax Liens versus County Property Tax Lien

Kevin S.Posted
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Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

Check with a local RE attorney, but generally upon the tax sale, the IRS has 120 days to redeem (buy it back from the buyer at costs, plus a little bit) and if they don't redeem their lien goes away.

Wayne, I know you posted this reply a while ago but I was searching for this same topic for my particular situation and I have a question for you. I'm looking to buy a a county tax lien certificate from another investor. It is located in Colorado. It has a Federal IRS lien listed on the O&E report. You had stated that the Federal government has 120 days to redeem. Is this counted from the date of the treasurer's deed issuance or the date of the final quiet title decree? 

Originally posted by @Steve Morris:

It's my understanding that a county tax lien has priority over any other liens---so basically everything else is wiped out.

What do you mean by wiped out?

Those liens are still due, however, they may be subordinate to the tax lien.

I mean to say that the county property tax lien takes first priority over everything else. Worst case scenario, I would get paid first, even with the IRS lien, right?

Hello All,

It's my understanding that a county tax lien has priority over any other liens---so basically everything else is wiped out. I'm looking to purchase a tax lien property from another investor. The property is located in Colorado and has multiple judgments, a deed of trust, as well as an IRS tax lien against it. Can anyone advise as to whether these all get wiped out from the county tax lien? I'm looking to purchase the property and will apply for treasurer's deed in October. Then will likely proceed with quiet title action as there is sufficient value in the property to make it worthwhile. Perhaps @Wayne Brooks could respond?

Thanks!

Kevin

Post: need tax strategiest / cpa

Kevin S.Posted
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Originally posted by @Robin Searle:

@Roger Hauf I have a fantastic CPA in the Springs who is an investor herself. If you’d like her info, PM me!

Robin, can you please send me that CPA's contact info also? Thanks!

Post: Buying an OTC Tax Lien on a Parking Lot

Kevin S.Posted
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Originally posted by @Bruce Lynn:

You could get lucky on this, but who has more money for the court battle.

My thought is they're going to fight you that they weren't properly notified.

Tie it up for a year or two or three.

The sale gets cancelled and you get your money back...no interest....

So you loose.  You pay your attorney fees, you loose the use of your money for 1-2-3 years.

You loose the opportunity to buy something or many something elses for 2-3 years while your money is tied up.

These are always...WOW---what if, but I think success is probably rare in these circumstances.

One thing you might check is to see if the bank owns or leases the rest of the property.

Is that sliver worth anything to any body else?  Could another bank put ATMs there?  

Is it big enough for anything else to go there?

Bruce,

The parking lot parcel that I'm talking about is owned by the bank itself. The adjacent lot with the bank's building on it is being leased by the bank. The parking lot parcel is likely not worth anything to anybody other than these two parties. It is, however, possible that another bank could easily put an ATM there as it's located at a major intersection in the heart of the city. My thought was to negotiate with the county to buy this at a lower price and take the risk to see if I can sell the parking lot back to either the bank or the property owner.

Post: Buying an OTC Tax Lien on a Parking Lot

Kevin S.Posted
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Hello All, I am looking into possibly buying an over the counter tax lien property from the county. The parcel is for a partial parking lot for a "big name" national bank. The bank parcel adjacent to this lot is a (mostly) drive through location, but per the sign on the front door, they do have bankers onsite for walk in appointments also. They have a total of 9 parking spaces, of which this particular tax lien parcel would cover about 3.5 regular and 0.5 disabled parking spots (see photo attached). In addition, one of the main (there are a total of 3 possible) parking lot entrance / exit points is included in this parcel also. Would any of you say that this is a worthy purchase from the standpoint of trying to sell it back to the bank? It's worth noting that property has been deed eligible for for some time now, as the original tax sale was held back in 2013.

Click on image below to see approximate parcel boundary lines.

Originally posted by @Bill S.:

@Kevin S. so there is a lot to happen between "If in a few months time..." and "I end up owning the property". As Josh Carr mentioned you have to file for a tax deed. You don't "end up owning the property". You have to go through the legal steps to get title. Once you have title, then you own the property. There is a long road between now and you having title to the property. 

I will say this, the county assessor is very aggressive and very slow to grant title. I was following a property that was in the situation you described above. I had contacted them about the property, they kept my contact info and they followed up with me when the tax lien holder applied for title just to make sure I wasn't lien holder on it. In taking with the assessor's office they stated it often takes much longer than the minimum to issue a tax deed as they want to be doubly sure that they didn't miss protecting the rights of creditors.

Thanks Bill and Josh, yes there is a lot that can happen between now and then. I spoke with the county and was told notice would go out to owner(s) and, if unredeemed, the treasurer's deed would be issue on November 1st. I'm just trying to prepare as that's not too far away. I've never dealt with tax lien property that has a deed of trust against it and want to be ready. It seems that quiet title action would clear up both the deed of trust and the tax lien issues in a single shot.