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All Forum Posts by: Kyle G.

Kyle G. has started 1 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: How do I build a team?

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Elena Scott:

My husband and I own 21 units and have been managing everything ourselves up until now. We would like to scale to 100+ (Using BRRR) but realize we need to build a team of people to help us, but don't know where to start with hiring and who to hire. My husband does about 80% of the renovation work himself because quality labor is incredibly expensive and hard to come by in our area. So hiring out for labor seems like a non-option right now. Rent collection, paperwork, and finances is my genius so it seems like that is also a non-option. So far we have an accountant who handles payroll and taxes and a part time handyman. Who was your most important hire in order to scale? Any input is most appreciated.


Elena, this post is tagged as Pittsburgh, PA; are you and/or your portfolio based in the area? If so, you should connect with some of the local REI groups and see who can bring value to you and your mission! I recently moved to the area (south of PGH), and am working on networking with other pros and investors in and around the area, as well. I'd love to connect and see how we can add value to you! I completely understand the intimidation of scaling and letting go of control; but it's definitely a necessary step for growth!

Post: New member looking to connect with Pittsburgh and Morgantown WV market

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Joy Helton:

I would love to connect with Pittsburgh market. Folks. Do you have their info or Facebook group ?  Thank you. Hope to see you next week at Morgantown rei meet up. 

This one is specifically targeted to SubTo! Great bunch of people that meet weekly;

 facebook.com/groups/squaduppgh

Also just do a search on Facebook for REIA and ACRE Pittsburgh, you'll find some more of the established, formal-style REIA groups!

Post: New member looking to connect with Pittsburgh and Morgantown WV market

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5

Welcome, Joy! I recently moved to the  Waynesburg area between Morgantown and Pittsburgh, and am networking in both markets. You'll see Morgantown does have a location tag here on BP Forums (shoutout to @Seth Timmerman!) Pittsburgh is a well-established market that works well for just about any investment strategy you'd like to focus on. Morgantown is a bit more on the up-and-coming list, but there's some serious opportunity! There are great groups in both locations, with members active both here on the Forums, and in Facebook Groups. There's a BP/Subto group in Pittsburgh that meets weekly in the Strip District, and Seth started a monthly meetup in Morgantown! Stay connected and get some of these meet-ups in your calendar; it's a great way to get some traction in your investing journey! Chat soon, K

Post: Single Family BRRRR

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Alena Beecher-Ritchie:

Congratulations! But omg, they tried to cancel the sale 1 day before closing! That's a nightmare.  Pretty awesome that you were able to obtain the property completely after 6 weeks. 

Which part did you DIY, but in hindsight wised you hired a technician?   And did you have any major surprises since you forgo the due diligence period? 

Thank you! It's been quite the adventure...

Not only did they try to cancel the day prior, when they found out that wasn't going to work, simply said, "Well, then I'm just not going to show up to closing!" Thankfully, their realtor, the agent's broker and the escrow lawyer were able to convince them that was not a bright idea... So they showed up to the closing table only four hours late!

Then, at the escrow lawyers' office (four hours late), the seller informed the lawyer that they hadn't even begun to move and had nowhere yet to move to, so needed a 30-day Post-Close Occupancy Agreement. Joy. But no worries; we weren't moving immediately anyhow, so we agreed. A bit of a nuisance, as I had already scheduled utilities to be switched into my name, and had to cancel/reschedule all of them... Even more fun as the utilities are all separate, and quite antiquated, so require a phone call for each. This was on December 22.

We moved along with plans to move, booked a truck, and started packing. We didn't hear much from the seller during the post-close period, but have family nearby, who reported there seemed to be very little (if any) activity of moving out. Following up with the seller in the final week of the agreement, they told us they had a medical procedure that week, and so were still unable to move, and needed more time... We gave them our hard-fast date (February 6) when we were coming to the house in a moving truck with a newborn, so they could make whatever arrangements were necessary to vacate before then.

They ended up fibbing to us when they reported what day they were actually out of the house, as the day we were driving down, some family who had come into town to help unpack met the seller at the house when they went to take a look before our arrival (after some family in the area had received keys... seller had kept a set). Thankfully, we did extract a daily rate from escrow for the nearly two weeks they remained in the property after PCOA expiration. They also left a whole mess of junk in and around the house... Not a hoarder by any stretch, but more than had been agreed upon at close.

Ultimately, all is well, and the first thing I did on arrival was change all the locks!

RE: DIY
Myself and my father-in-law are completing the entire project ourselves. He has minor renovation experience with basic framing, drywall and carpentry, and I have know-how in electrical, plumbing and HVAC! Ultimately, we will hire out most or all future renovations, as we're both very busy, and if each single-family project takes 4-6mos, that's not a great way to build out a portfolio or business very quickly! Thankfully, no major surprises in this house, other than some minor (previously remediated) evidence of termites, and some very poorly done renovations in the past... A large percentage of plumbing, some electrical and even framing have not been anywhere close to code. Thankfully, everything is correctable!

We're a ways yet from finished, but are starting to have some visual progress, with kitchen cabinets in, and flooring going down in the living areas this week! I'll follow up with some before and after photos once we're further along. For now; here's some hickory cabinets and LVP on their way down!

Post: Proper Metal Roofing Install

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Tim Nethers:

Thank you Kyle G. this is the exact type of answer I was looking for.


Glad it's helpful! I was bitten by the building science bug a few years ago, and my goal is to find cost-effective ways to make my buildings as resilient and healthy as possible moving forward! It looks like the YouTube link didn't share in my original reply; here it is again just in case!

(youtu.be/bSF9wKEdKDk?t=326)

Good luck on your project! Your post was tagged in the Pittsburgh area; if you're ever around in person, feel free to reach out! Cheers, K

Post: Proper Metal Roofing Install

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5

There are a couple nuances to a "roof-over," one being that most jurisdictions have a specific code for number of roofing layers that can be stacked atop one another before you have to do a rip-off. Considering the structure of most homes wasn't intended for the added mass of two or three (or more) layers of shingle, for a reasonable price, I'm personally a proponent of compete removal down to the roof deck, new ice/water barrier, and your new roofing material above that; this will by far get you the most longevity of the new material out of any of your options. Note; paper underlayment will be cheapest, but it's cheap for a good reason, and it's not its robust life expectancy...

The strapping you mentioned is a slight added cost, but if done properly (vents at the eve/drip edge and ridge), can actually help lower inside attic or top-floor temperatures, as you now have an "air gap" to help alleviate some of the penetrating UV heat, as well as helping to drain and dry condensation that WILL form on the backside of a metal sheathing. This is how I will personally re-roof all my properties moving forward, plus some roof-deck insulation (with increasing insulation requirements, it'll be hard to meet code without it in the near-future).

When done properly, a metal roof will be absolutely bomber, and the best bang for your buck! If you want to get really into the weeds of building science, you can look at adding a radiant barrier in addition to the normal ice/water to help reflect some of the UV heat, but that's not strictly necessary.

Check out Matt Risinger's "Build Show" on YouTube. He a high-end builder from Austin, TX who offers some practical ways to apply smart tactics to help your building last longer and healthier! Check out this video specifically regarding metal roof install;

Keep us posted either way which way you end up going! Cheers, K

Post: Water company mishandling of payments

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5

Sorry to hear of these agitators! I have somewhat similar issues down in Greene County, PA. Our water and sewer are billed separately, but both are excessively antiquated systems, and only one can be viewed online... They're so poorly set up, when you go into the third-party payment portal, you have to enter the amount you want to pay, and aren't shown what's currently due. You also can't set up automatic credit card payments... You'd have no idea it's 2023!

I'm unsure with your specific providers, but would assume your due date is the same every month for these fixed utilities. If they aren't going to permit the tenant be the point of contact on the account, you still have a few options;

First, you can take a look at your average cost for each utility over the past year, roll that (plus a slight margin) into your base rent and simply market the rentals as "utilities included."

Second, you could pin the provider down on if it's possible to have a separate mailing vs. service address; most providers should have a way of doing this, since some physical service addresses don't have direct USPS service, and instead receive mail to a PO Box.

Third, this is a bit more involved, but you can simply become regimented about not waiting for the mail (can we really trust USPS anyhow??). Schedule an "Admin" day around when the usage period ends for each service, and create a monthly recurring calendar reminder to call and get the balance due on each account. This way, you know where you stand regardless of the bill in the mail. This reduces your reliance on your tenants seeing and forwarding or forgetting the bill to you, and what could be a poorly-run Accounts Receivable department, if they are in fact not sending bills out in a timely fashion each month/period.

Fourth, if your or your husband's names are on the bills (and you don't intend to live in these properties), you could set up either temporary forwarding or file a change-of-address with USPS for your family name. This way, any bills addressed to either of your names would be forwarded to your chosen address. You can fill out that form online with USPS HERE (https://moversguide.usps.com).

I'm not a lawyer, but to my knowledge, there's no firm requirement as to how long it can take a payment to post to an account like you mentioned, but so long as you have proof of payment (credit card or bank statement showing withdrawal), you should be free from any late fees. Something I'm not entirely clear on from your post; you said you confirmed with your bank that payments are sent ahead of the due date. Does this mean you're using your bank's Bill Pay service and the bank is mailing the provider a physical check on your behalf? If so, do check what the bank's policy is on when they mail checks; whether the date you specified during setup is the mailing date or deliver-by date. For my bank, I tell them when the payment should be delivered by, and they'll adjust the mailing date to make sure it's there by at least the prior business day (relative to weekends and holidays). If you're using this method, also make sure you're receiving confirmation from your bank when those checks are being sent/postmarked, as this will help you in a case against late fees!

Unfortunately, you're ultimately not in control of how the providers run their business, so if your payments are being applied to an incorrect account, there's likely not much you can do about that. Perhaps if you're mailing a check, look to add your account number, customer ID or the property address to the "MEMO" line?

Also, if you're looking for a good way to systematize your bills and expense, consider a service like Bill.com (https://www.bill.com) to have a central location for all your bills, to help prevent expenses slipping through the cracks!

Keep us updated if you're able to improve these nuisance conditions; hopefully something here might be useful to you! Cheers, K

Post: Single Family BRRRR

Kyle G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA USA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $85,000

BRRRR in the making! Currently under renovation from a 3bd/1bt to 2bd/2bt. Relocating kitchen, creating a bathroom out of thin air, replacing and moving all major mechanicals, improving electrical, siding, windows, roof, landscape; the works! Before/after images to be provided. This will be a primary residence for 2-3yrs, then on to a long-term rental.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Need for a new primary residence closer to family, and reduced cost of living.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Living 5.5hrs away, we had family walk through the property and video chat us the day it hit the market. The next day (Thanksgiving Day), we submitted our offer; one of three, and ours was accepted!

Offer Terms: All cash, waived inspection, close at seller's convenience, escalation clause to $92.5k (unexercised)

How did you finance this deal?

Private lender for purchase and rehab.

How did you add value to the deal?

Complete renovation.

What was the outcome?

Seller requested a 30-day close, which we agreed to. The day before close, they attempted to cancel the sale. Eventually, their realtor and the lawyer were able to convince them to fulfill their side of the agreement. At closing, the seller requested a post-sale occupancy agreement, as they had not moved out. We agreed to a 30-day POA. Seller ended up occupying two additional weeks, but eventually moved out the day before we were moving into town...

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Doing the work yourself can be monetarily cheaper, but not in time! Be careful with post-sale occupancy agreements; don't turn into the unwitting landlord of a squatter!