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All Forum Posts by: Leo R.

Leo R. has started 16 posts and replied 584 times.

Post: HELOC Lenders on Investment Properties in Missouri (St. Louis)

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@Jacob Switzer I have no clue whether they will operate in Missouri, but last time I checked, America First Credit Union would do a HELOC in my area. It may be worth calling them...even if they won't operate in your state, they might know who does...

It's notoriously difficult to find lenders that will do HELOCs on rental properties, but they do exist, so if you call around to enough places, you might find one...

Good luck!

Post: Need Advice: Just purchased a foreclosed house

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@John Roberts it depends on what the law about foreclosures, and the contracts for that foreclosed property say....does the law and those contracts say that you own everything on the property after you close on it? (I would imagine yes, but I'm not a lawyer or a foreclosure expert).

Regardless, you may be incorrect in your assumption that letting her have the shed will mean that you won't have to worry about her causing problems in the future...you don't know her, but you do know she just got out of jail? Why would you trust anything she says?  In my experience, if you give an inch to deadbeats, they take a mile (so yes, she may well keep coming back).  

Plus, if you let her take this shed, you're allowing her onto YOUR property to do something extremely physical and potentially dangerous--which exposes you to a massive amount of liability (and unfortunately, some people would even take that as an opportunity to falsify some type of injury and file a lawsuit against you).

At the end of the day, you should consult the relevant laws and the contracts, and then follow what they say.

Good luck!

Post: Washer/Dryer left by tenant, keep or sell?

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@Jason Eiceman personally, I'd probably leave them....mainly because (like you said), they're a pain to move, they'll be attractive to new tenants, and mainly because the presence/absence of a washer/dryer isn't enough to really affect my business model one way or another. If you're really worried about repairing/replacing them when they break, you could put a clause in the lease that the tenants are responsible for providing their own W/D, and that the new tenants can have the ones that are there--but that you're not responsible for fixing/replacing them...

Post: What’s Your favorite book?

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As far as business/career-oriented books go, Shoe Dog is fantastic.

Post: Should We Refinance?

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Quote from @Shashitha Francis:
Quote from @Alex Bekeza:

@Shashitha Francis Have you exhausted the viability of a HELOC first

@Alex Bekeza Are we able to get a HELOC in an investment property? I was under the impression HELOC was for primary residence only.

 @Shashitha Francis it's difficult to find, but there ARE lenders that do HELOCs on rental properties (I have several).  In my local area, America First Credit Union offers HELOCs on rental properties (or at least they did last time I checked).  I'd recommend calling around to local credit unions and asking around...

Good luck out there!

Post: South Tampa: Teardown vs Rental

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@Joey Mitchell I'd also be considering how easy (or difficult) this property is to manage.

For instance, if high-quality tenants are easy to find, and the property presents minimal headaches, I'd be more inclined to keep it...and the opposite if it's a pain to manage.

You said you had an eviction--do you think that was a fluke, or something you can prevent, or is it likely to be a re-occurring problem? If it was just a fluke, or if it's something you think you can prevent in the future, then I'd be more inclined to keep the place, but if it's a sign of a low quality tenant pool, and you can't get higher quality tenants, then I'd be more inclined to get rid of the property...

Good luck out there!

Post: NEGATIVE CASH ON CASH RETURN

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@Amy H. In my experience, cashflow is rarely "found". Instead, cashflow is created.

This is similar to the RE saying "deals aren't found, they're made."

So, the obvious question is: "ok, how do I create cashflow?"

It often comes down to learning to see something in a property that other buyers don't see. For instance, being able to spot an easy opportunity to add a bedroom or a bathroom to a property...if it's an easy conversion, and it's on the right type of property in the right market, 10-20k spent to add a br and/or bathroom can pick you up an extra 500-1000 per month in rent...do the math, and you'll find that that is some incredible cash on cash return.

All sorts of rehabs/conversions can turn a total loser into a cashflowing property. ...another example: I've built ADUs in previously unfinished basements, which turned properties that were $500/mo negative into properties that now cashflow 1000/mo ...the power move was rolling the construction debt into refis on other properties at lower rates, which more than negated the construction debt...in other words, I got paid to build the ADUs (these days, this isn't usually possible--or at least, it's a lot less likely--now that rates are rising...but who knows, rates might decrease again at some point...).

...Although certain rehabs/conversions can force cashflow, there is real skill and art to spotting properties that are good candidates for these types of rehabs/conversions. ...an effective rehab/conversion is often a lot trickier than HGTV would have you believe, and choosing the wrong property to do this can completely blow up the financial model.

Another approach is to learn to find properties that have something that turns off other buyers, but which is irrelevant to cashflow, and irrelevant to your business model. For instance, I've bought properties in A class neighborhoods where EVERYONE wanted to live, but they were on relatively busy streets, which turned off retail buyers. However, I knew the streets weren't so busy that they would impact the rentability of the properties... I picked up the properties for a heavily discounted price (because they had sat on the market), and had no problems finding highly qualified (and high-earning) tenants that made the place cashflow right out of the gate.

Another example: I once bought a property in an A class neighborhood that had an awkwardly-placed stairwell inside the front entrance, which turned off other buyers. However, I knew that the stairwell had zero impact on the actual functionality of the property, and that it would have zero impact on its desirability as a rental. Once again, the property sat on the market for a long time, I bought it at a heavy discount, and it's been cash flowing ever since.

Cashflow can also be created by changing how you use the property—for instance, renting a house by the room or as MTR or STR sometimes creates cashflow.

By the way: every property I own cashflows well, and every property I own was bought on the MLS during what was probably the toughest buyer's market in American history! (I didn't have to look for off market deals, do weird business arrangements, or do anything unusual at all to get these properties, even in a tough buyer's market...shocker, I know!).

It's important to note that most of the strategies I just described require actually going to to the property and seeing it with your own eyes. Value add opportunities are rarely conveyed purely via data, photos, or websites--you have to step away from the computer and go pound the pavement. Zillow won't show you that the only thing separating a house from cashflow is an easy-to-remove, non-load-bearing wall...and Zillow also won't show you that the wall you want to remove is load-bearing, or that the noise from the street is way too loud for tenants--this stuff requires boots on the ground. 

So, in summary: it is possible to get cashflow, but it's just not something that can be had without some effort and sacrifices...you have to go where others aren't going, and do what others aren't doing.

If it were possible to succeed in REI by buying turnkey, A class, perfect properties all from behind a computer, then everyone would be doing it! ...but, the reality is: REI takes in-person property assessment, creativity and flexible thinking, the ability to see opportunities others miss, the willingness to acquire properties others don't want, and the willingness to do what it takes to force cashflow.

Good luck out there!

Post: Reserves and Business plan

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Quote from @Chase Tompkins:

Hello, I currently have 3 questions to ask. 

When starting out as a new real estate investor do you absolutely need reserves? I was talking with a local investor and he was explaining how I need about 20k in reserves of course that would take me forever. I understand it helps just in case something goes wrong. I do not want to wait until I have 20k in reserves which could take years in your opinion is this an absolute necessitate? 

This depends on factors like the type of property you're buying and its risk profile, your income, your ability (or inability) to do your own repairs, the amount of the mortgage payment, the exposure to vacancy, etc., etc.  Different properties will have completely different risk profiles--the reserves needed for a 1500 sq ft A grade house are completely different than the reserves needed for a 5000 sq ft C grade house, for example. A house in rural Kansas will have a completely different exposure to vacancy than a house in the A grade neighborhoods of Miami.  A house with a brand new roof requires less in reserves than a house where the roof only has 5 years left. etc., etc.  It's not a matter of having reserves "just in case something goes wrong", it's a matter of "WHEN something goes wrong"--unanticipated expenses are an unavoidable part of REI.  So, how much you need in reserves depends on how much the property costs to operate--thus, it's essential to understand what a property will cost you to operate before you buy. This is why proper due diligence is the foundation of successful REI.

The second question when it comes to getting hard money should I be sending these people deals that I know make a decent profit to show that I am out here looking at deals with positive cash flow?

If you're not yet sure about what a property costs to operate and how much you need in reserve, I'd suggest holding off on looking for hard money until you're more experienced with the fundamentals of REI.  If you're a beginner, I'd suggest starting with a more beginner-friendly strategy (like house hacking using a conventional owner-occupant 30 yr mortgage, which has the best terms). 

The 3rd question is are the homes on realtor or Zillow not the way to go when finding deals should I be really out to look for worn-down homes throughout the neighborhood?  I heard I few opinions explaining you can't find a good deal through those websites I just wanted more opinions. 

It depends on what strategy you're using, what skillset you have, and what your goals are. If you have the time and motivation to find off market deals, go for it (but that's an operation that requires a certain commitment and skillset, and it's a relatively steep learning curve for a beginner). All other things being equal, the easier route for a beginner is to buy a property on the MLS. It is possible to find good investments on MLS-fed sites like Zillow. In fact, the bulk of my portfolio was purchased off the MLS during one of the worst buyer's markets in US history, yet my portfolio performs very well.  It's all about understanding how to find a property that has hidden value or a value add opportunity that other buyer's don't see, and then taking advantage of that (which is an entire topic in and of itself)

Thank You for your input and opinions. 

Good luck out there!


Post: Max Age for Buy and Hold Properties?

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@Troy P. this seems to be one of the most common questions on the forums lately, so here's the response I've posted in other threads:

One of the biggest misconceptions by inexperienced RE investors is that new houses are inherently less costly/less headache to maintain than older houses. This is true some times, but in some scenarios, brand new properties end up producing significantly MORE maintenance/repair headaches than older properties.

The reasons are:

1) Some building techniques/materials are far superior to those used in the past, but some are not, and some are unproven. For instance, I'm very doubtful that pex will have a longer service life than copper plumbing. The trend toward flat roofs is just silly in most areas (bc it causes water diversion problems, which then cause a myriad of other problems). Lumber quality today is mostly trash. Etc., etc.

    2) A new house hasn't gone through its "growing pains" phase. All sorts of problems can emerge in the first few years. For instance, inadequate/improperly designed water diversion systems can cause major problems (e.g.; rot, masonry degradation, foundation settling) that won't emerge for several years. I personally know people who bought brand new, multi-million dollar, beautiful luxury homes, only to have serious foundation settling over the first 5-10 years of ownership (and the repair bill was in the hundreds of thousands!).

    On the other hand, an older house has been around so long that these types of problems have either occurred and been addressed by previous owners, or they're often plainly visible. For instance, if there's an unresolved settling issue, you can probably see cracks in the foundation, buckling, un-level floors, un-plumb doors, etc. ...but, if everything is solid now on an old house, it'll probably remain pretty solid for the foreseeable future. As my GC says: "if it's stood straight and true for the last 100 years, it'll probably make it at least another 25".

    I own properties from the 1910s, 1940s, 1960s, and early 2000s –and frankly, the older properties are some of my best performing, and least headache-causing properties of the portfolio!

    Don't get me wrong; there are plenty of issues/problems/quirks that old houses have that new houses don't, and an old house can obviously have hidden problems and big repair/maintenance bills too--which is why thorough due diligence is fundamental to REI...but, the point is: a brand new house is not a foolproof solution to repairs/maintenance headaches (and in some cases, a brand new house can be a much bigger gamble than an older house).

    This is a particularly important lesson for inexperienced investors, who tend to be the most prone to "shiny object syndrome" (the tendency to let nice aesthetics distract from real, underlying issues). There are no shortage of lipsticked pig properties out there, and learning to spot them is essential for successful RE investing...we're all susceptible to "shiny object syndrome", but being aware of it is the first step to avoiding it!

    Good luck out there!

    Post: Preferred methods to store cash

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    Hey folks, I'm interested to hear how people prefer to store their cash (i.e.; cash that they need to have very quick access to).

    As we all know, most methods of keeping cash (e.g.; savings accounts) are getting hit with inflation, so I'm especially interested to hear how people are trying to defend against inflation, while also keeping their money liquid.

    Happy Saturday!