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All Forum Posts by: Kyle Nolen

Kyle Nolen has started 1 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: Airbnb in Knoxville

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

The Short Term Shop specializes in STR. They tend to focus more in the nearby Smoky Mountains but I'm sure they could help you with your specific goals if you insist on Knoxville. They are the "OG's" of the STR game in our area and active with BP

Post: Rent or Sell Primary home?

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

Hello, Amanda.  Congratulations on your home and good luck with your transition to Florida!

I would agree with using Return on Equity as a measuring stick for this situation, but I would disagree slightly with the conclusion to automatically keep the home.  In my opinion, you should weigh the Return on Equity for your Knoxville house against alternative investments that you might be considering.  In other words, it would only make sense to sell your home and take the equity if you felt your could generate a rate of return on alternative uses/investments of your equity greater than 6.8%.  For example, if your new mortgage in Florida was 7% or higher, then your $150,000 is best served by paying down the debt on the new home.  Or, lets say you have another property that is a "fixer-upper" where investing your $150,000 would result in significant forced appreciation greater than 6.8%.  That would seem to be a better deal as your cash is best served to grow your balance sheet in that way rather than the current deal you're in.

A couple of other factors can come into play that address both concerns from you and your husband.  By selling now, you would most-likely be protected from having to pay any gains tax because it is your primary residence and you seem to have occupied it long enough.  If the Knoxville home becomes a secondary home to your new residence in Florida, it is possible you might lose that protection.  Also, your expectation in the movement of future rent prices (the numerator in the ROE formula) compared to the movement of future home prices (the denominator) can alter your calculations.  For example, if you expect rents in Knoxville to continue to increase while home prices remain flat, then your Return on Equity would grow.  This increase would make the Knoxville home more compelling to keep, as it would be more challenging for an alternative investment to outperform.  On the other hand, if you expect the market value of your home to increase while rents remain flat (or you fear having vacancy), then this would decrease your Return on Equity lower than the 6.8% your currently enjoy.   This decrease in the projection of rent revenue compared to market prices would be a stronger reason to sell as alternative investments look more attractive the lower your ROE calculation drops.  

Simply put, using the ROE formula in this way helps you and your husband make a more informed decision on various options that might be in front of you for the $150,000 of equity that your good decisions have produced thus far.  If your projections are accurate and you're happy with a 6.8% rate of return, then you should keep the house and rent it out.  If you have another opportunity in front of you that's more lucrative, you should sell.  

Either way, it's a great problem to have.  Good luck!!!

John, I do insurance work in the East Tennessee area and have several clients in the Smokies.  I also hold a Certified Financial Planner™ designation with a specialty in insurance planning, so I thought I'd weigh-in on the conversation.  

As has been mentioned, most companies have software that helps us estimate replacement cost.  However, as has also been noted, it is important for your agent to be in-tune with what local builders are charging, as these software programs allow for different finish grade scales to be used.  For example, in one of my last quotes, a normal replacement scale estimated about $300,000 for rebuild.  However, because I knew what those homes were selling for and what builders were charging for new 3/3 construction (minus land and furnishings), I adjusted the finish grade to a more appropriate scale.  Doing so increased the calculation to $700,000.  That was an incredible difference, but more like what my client would actually experience if attempting to rebuild in today's environment.

On a side note, I think it's also prudent to speak to some of the other comments that have been made for the benefit of the group.  It is super important to understand terminology and other contract features.  

1)For example, comments have been made about "Umbrella Coverage."  This type of insurance is extremely important, but has nothing to do with replacement cost coverage or payout in the event of physical damage claims.  Instead, Umbrella protection is a tool used to purchase additional liability protection for claims involving personal injury or damage to property of others.  

2)Secondly, almost all STR replacement cost contracts that I've seen have a little-known or little-understood contractual "Co-Insurance" requirement. The Co-Insurance requirement is usually a minimum of 80% but some companies are higher. This clause is super-important and is standard language in almost all commercial insurance policies (STR are usually considered commercial). If it is not met, then your claim payout would be reduced by whatever proportional amount you are short in coverage plus your applicable deductible. Consider the following example. Let's say you have a cabin with a true replacement value of $1 Million. The 80% co-insurance provision, then, would require that the client carry a minimum of $800,000 dwelling coverage. If, however, the client only had their cabin insured for, say, $500,000, then they would be 37.5% "underinsured." ($300,000/$800,000=37.5%) Since this means the insurance company was only collecting premiums on a house that was "partially-insured," the company has grounds to reduce one's payout by a similar percentage. For example, let's say you had a kitchen fire that did $100,000 worth of damage. Even though this amount is less than the $500,000 of dwelling coverage mentioned above, the company would only pay $62,500 minus whatever deductible you would have. In the event of a total loss, the total payout in the example above would only be $312,500 ($500,000x62.5%=$312,500) minus your deductible. That kind of reduction can be devastating. Because of this, we recommend working with your agent at least on an annual basis to ensure that your policy is always in compliance with whatever scale your insurance company would use to set the co-insurance provision. Folks who had inadequate policies really got hurt during the PF/Gatlinburg fires a few years back, as many insurance companies invoked the co-insurance clause to limit their losses during that massive catastrophic event.

3)I have noticed that some folks are referencing their lot values and furnishings when referring to "replacement cost." That is a mistake. First of all, insurance policies do not insure the land. Secondly, STR policies have different categories of coverage that need to be considered. For example, the empty house is typically insured under "dwelling" or "building" categories. The furniture, appliances, and other furnishings are insured under the separate categories of either "personal property," "business personal property," or "contents." With this in mind, your agent can help you divide the total value of your property among these 3 categories (land, building, and contents) to make sure your policy has adequate limits for the building and furnishings respectively. Lastly, I'd also recommend adding or reviewing a 4th category that is often overlooked. That is "loss of rents" or "loss of business income." If you were to have a claim, you'd not only have the damaged home and/or items to be replaced, but you'd also lose out on the revenue your STR would have generated if it were still operational. This coverage is very cheap and can keep you solvent if you were depending on your asset's revenue to pay the mortgage.

Some of this you may already have known, but I thought it worth clarifying for the benefit of the group and anyone who didn't!

Post: BP Meet up in Knoxville TN

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

Hello, Tucker.  I'd be happy to meet.  I'm a Knoxville resident and new to RE investing.  Feel free to PM and we can coordinate day/time or I'm happy to participate in a group meetup if that works out.  Also, I second Ken Dillard's recommendation about Derek Tellier's group.  

Post: Moving to Knoxville TN!

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

Welcome to Knoxville, Andy!  Happy to connect if you're looking to build new relationships and teams.

Post: Knoxville Airbnb advise

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

It is my understanding that it is just the city of Knoxville. I have several insurance clients with STRs in Knox County and one client in particular that is a PM for several inside The county. There are city exemptions for one’s  primary residence and a process for exemption waivers

Post: Knoxville Airbnb advise

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

Hello, Linda. Currently, the City of Knoxville has placed a number of restrictions on STR that went into effect in 2018. I would recommend reviewing this link (City of Knoxville STR Regulations) and contacting city officials with an specific questions that you might have about your goals/objectives.  

Post: Building a team and making connections

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

Hello, Wayne.  I'm a Knoxville resident and new to real estate myself.  I'm just starting out too and have the same goal of building my network and evaluating strategies.  I'd be happy to help connect to see how we could help each other.  Many of my insurance clients are investors, flippers, or involved in various building trades.  Feel free to DM me and we can discuss how we might be able to collaborate.

Post: Wholesalers in the Knoxville area

Kyle NolenPosted
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 7

Knoxville has a few Facebook pages and forums where wholesalers are active. Search for “Knoxville Flippers” and you’ll find most of them 

I'm a new (potential) investor who has been actively working my contact networks to find my first property. I recently received an off-market lead to a seller who has 2 vacation rental cabins that are for sale on a single lot in a very popular part of Sevier County. The asking price seems compelling and I've been able to secure financing. Similarly, I have 3-years worth of rental history and other rental history comps to give me a great idea on revenue. I also have histories for utilities, taxes, and insurance. However, the part that I'm struggling with on analyzing this deal would be how to project long-term expenses like CapEx, Maintenence, and Repairs. What would be a conservative percentage of revenue to set aside for CapEx, Maintenence, and Repairs (on average) to help with final analysis on this deal?