Originally posted by @Christopher Kolasa:
Hey Matt, my logic being: using a value of $190k, at paying 5% down or $9.5 versus 20% down or $38k, the FHA loan will allow more access to cash to buy the next property. No credit or DTI issues. I can afford either 5% or 20% down. For rehab financing, I would like to rope it the rehab costs into the FHA loan (or conventional) or consider using an FHA 203k or personal financing.
Yes, I understand that I (or him) in this case would have to live there for a year. Gifting the money to him is an option (what are the limits of this per year?). So in terms of my ability(or inability) to assist him, I thought FHA allowed for a co-signer?
So lastly, on the topic of taking out multiple FHA loans (one at a time), this is news to me, if I get an FHA loan, would I have to live in the property for a year to get another FHA loan on a separate property or if I did that within the first year of residency, I would likely have to refinance? How would someone be able to have multiple FHA loans? Does it even make sense to go with an FHA loan if I should have no issues with getting an conventional loan?
So the reason I ask about the purpose of going FHA is that you will get a far better deal by going conventional. Most banks offer 5,10, and 15% down products along with the usual 20% down. Anything under 20% will still carry PMI but there are 3 big differences between FHA and conventional loans when it comes to PMI. Lets assume a loan of 5% down via FHA and 5% down with conventional.
1. with FHA you are going to end up paying up front PMI at closing which will be 1.8xx% of the loan amount or roughly $3,300! in your case. then you will still have monthly PMI. There is no upfront PMI on the conventional side.
2. monthly PMI on conventional loans are normally slightly cheaper then the PMI of FHA loans.
3. PMI does not drop off of FHA loans until you refinance AND have 20% or more equity, meaning if you get to the point where you've paid off 70% of the loan FHA does not care you will continue to pay that same PMI until you refinance out of it. With a conventional loan the PMI will automatically fall off once you reach between 18-20% equity in the property.
Side note, if you can afford 10% down that is often a good way to go because you'll fall into a cheaper PMI rate bracket vs putting 5-9% down. Though, you may decide that extra 10k is better suited on rehab which is understandable.
The principle reason to ever go FHA is if you can't go conventional due to DTI or low credit or you live in a wild area where the difference between 3.5% down and 5% down is 7k...
To touch on your questions FHA loans are specifically designed for owner occupants and the rules state FHA will not back one purchased for investment purposes. You are limited to 1 per person. there are exceptions that allow for 2 but they are rare and few and require special permissions.
you could in theory be a cosigner for him but the cosigner rules state you cannot have an interest in the property. So a bank may let it slide but technically if you 2 are investing together on a property, you have an interest in the property. Also most underwriters are not going to let a non family member be the cosigner.
As for a 'gift' you could give in 10k lets say and let it season in has bank account for 2 months then buy a place that would be fine but in this case you don't have 2 months. if you gave it to him for this house you'd have to sign a letter stating it's a gift and will not be repaid in any way. Which obviously, you expect a return from your 10k 'investment' so that's illegal and an underwriter will probably sniff that out as most friends don't give other friends a 10k gift...