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All Forum Posts by: Melanie Collins

Melanie Collins has started 2 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: How to invest when starting out?

Melanie CollinsPosted
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Quote from @Jeff Roth:

Hi Melanie-

A great question and a great position to be in, congratulations!

Someone once said, who was a member of this community, that owning 1 paid off property that yielded cashflow similar to four properties is much preferable because you only have the maintenance and management of one property.

I heard that and found a lot of wisdom in it.

Thus, like Occam's razor theory, the solution with the least moving parts with similar outcomes is preferable.

One last thing I would consider is using a property manager even if you are staying in the multiunit. You can act like just another tenant and it makes your investment more passive which should be your ultimate goal.

To your success!

Hey there Jeff,

Thanks so much for this outlook.  I agree with you and it is refreshing to have a very simple outlook that for me could work. Many people have told me I should manage the property and I see the point but my lifestyle is a bit more nomadic and I love to travel long term and also be gone for a few days without being connected.  For me, my freedom outweighs the cost. I don’t mind doing anything for a bit but long term I long for travel and freedom of this.  

My goal is maybe a bit broad due to this and I am open to maybe more then one avenue as I see people recommend when starting out.  But I see opportunity in brrrr, ltr, buy and hold etc.  I listened to a podcast the other day from here and loved what was said.  To buy the property under market value with potential and look at all the options you can do with this property so this is the way I am going to focus.  

i do love the idea of owning one or two properties outright and then can always take out equity loans after two years to continue my portfolio.  I did pas sim the quadplex because of a few reasons but mainly it was a huge investment especially for a cash flow based on hud tenants and unknown remodels or being able to see the property before making an offer.  

Post: How to invest when starting out?

Melanie CollinsPosted
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Quote from @Jay Thomas:

Real estate is a great way to build wealth and create income if you do it right. As a beginner, I'd suggest taking it one step at a time. Investing in one property at a time may help you get everything set up correctly and give you the spare cash for necessary fixes and maintenance. That way, you can ensure success as you move forward with your investments!

Good luck on your real estate journey!


Thanks so much !

Post: How to invest when starting out?

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Quote from @Leo R.:
Quote from @Melanie Collins:
Quote from @Leo R.:

@Melanie Collins if you're a beginner, starting with a large multi fam or multiple single fams all at once is a bit like trying to surf a 50 foot wave before you know how to swim.  

I'd suggest starting off with a simpler strategy that has a higher likelihood of success, and THEN build up to more advanced strategies as you gain experience. For instance, house hack a duplex, and you'll learn a TON of the most important lessons you need to know about real estate investing, and you'll be in a much better position to succeed with a larger and more complex strategy.

Similar to most things in life, when you're brand new to something, it's wise to start off with a beginner-appropriate strategy. Run a few 5k races before you try to run a 26 mile marathon, in other words.

Good luck out there!


 Thanks Leo. I do agree with you a 100% ! On top of it being a quadplex the realtor brought up hud as a way to cash flow and it seems super overwhelming to me.  

I am looking for markets that are good choices and I don’t mind House hacking at the moment as I actually live in my sprinter van in Mexico and would be able to  pick different areas to live for the first couple years while doing this.  


 ...If you wanted to get really crazy with it, you could house hack the house hack by buying a property that had space & hookups for your van, and living in the van while you rent the rest of the house...

Awesome idea ! I will keep that in mind for sure. 

Post: How to invest when starting out?

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Quote from @Christopher Gray:

Definitely start small, even one property to "learn the ropes".  I was looking at originally purchasing two properties at the same time for our first properties, but quickly realized it would be a more financially sound decision to start even smaller.  This was all after researching the market in my area and listening to Bigger Pockets for a few years.  Turns out we were right and found a totally different third property which we ultimately invested in.  Tenants will be moving into that property on 03/01 and we'll be turning a profit of over $2,000 every month.  It certainly pays to think outside of the box!  Best of luck!


 Thanks so much !

Post: Raising Capital for multi family

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Quote from @Kerry Baird:

I buy single family houses and getting them at a discount is a great plan, always.  We also get capital gains tax benefits for remodeling our own residences and holding for two years.  You could do that, move to another primary residence in 2 years, and have a nice tax-free lump of cash.  Buy another fixer as a primary with a portion of that money, and a similar rental.  I like probate houses for a bunch of reasons, but they usually have the right things wrong with them, such as old smelly carpet, but good structural condition. I can improve landscaping, put in new flooring, paint and so forth using Home Depot and get it done over time.  Look at the houses in my bio.

Food for thought, the 5 unit and up space is difficult to get funding for.  I suggest you look up the 5 units in your area on the tax assessors/recorder's site, handwrite and mail those owners and ask to buy with seller financing.  I would offer 5% interest only payments with a small down payment.  See where that goes.

Wow Kerry! Amazing portfolio and great advice. I will also look into these suggestions. 

Post: Twin Cities area Cash on Cash return

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Quote from @Davey McLaughlin:

Thanks @Evan Kraljic. Both these scenarios an explanations helped a lot as I see now I need to consider initial equity from a under the market value property with a low down payment. Thanks!

Evan how would you look at this scenario if you were working with more cash on purchase or a total cash purchase for a ltr or brrr? 

Post: How to invest when starting out?

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Quote from @Josh Green:
Quote from @Melanie Collins:

Hello Everyone,

Recently last year I sold my home in Lakewood, Co in May just before the market shifted. We sold in three days with a bidding war and over asking price. We are now in Mexico for the winter and have been reading, watching you tube, podcasts, and learning how to analyze deals. I am looking in Denver market and Tampa market at the moment and have a few other markets in mind.

My main question is if you had the funds to buy one large multifamily or three smaller investments for example how would you go about investing as a beginner? 

I feel that I should start out with a smaller investment and build my portfolio from there but have been sent a multifamily in denver area that would take all my funding and a small mortgage as well. We have experience in remodeling as well and are not afraid to take on a remodel.

Thanks

Melanie Collins

 


This answer completely depends on your situation and long-term goals. The easy answer in real estate investing is "more properties/more leverage = better". However, when you dig into it, that might not be the case. Are you financing these or are they all cash? How much cash? Are you living in the property? What's the strategy (BRRRR, LTR, FLIP, BRRRSTR, etc)? Feel free to DM me more details and I can give you some advice based on your situation and can speak to Tampa's opportunities that may or may not be a good fit for you.

Sounds great and I will dm you about Tampa and to update you in my thoughts.  Thanks 

Post: How to invest when starting out?

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Quote from @Brittany Guimond:

Ha, how funny that the market in Denver is shifting yet again... I thoroughly enjoyed taking advantaging of steep discounts, rate buy-downs, inspection items, etc. over the fall/winter, but alas, I think we're headed back to the days of yore. Anywho, do you plan to live in the property or purchase it as an investment? Lately I've found the #s on a SFR and duplex are much more do-able than the #s on a tri/quadplex, and if you house-hack, they are far more digestable if you house-hack as it's the lowest cost of entry. I personally liked starting small with a SFR we lived in, it gave us time + space to make mistakes and learn from them. I'm happy to set you up on an MLS search if you're interested, I've got a couple going right now looking exclusively at SFRs w/house-hack-ability (i.e ADU, lock-off, etc.).

Hi Brittany

Yes I could live in the house for the first two or three years and denver is on my list as well. 

would love to chat more about your thoughts on the Denver area. 

Post: How to invest when starting out?

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Quote from @Tanner Pile:

As a beginner it is always best to start small and learn your systems and get them in place for managing the property. If you plan to eventually be going for the larger units and are committed to learning and managing the property successfully then I believe you will be fine going for the larger property. 

Thanks Tanner and will be looking for a smaller property like a duplex to be my first investment.  

Post: How to invest when starting out?

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Quote from @Ben Rhodin:

Hey @Melanie Collins! Great to hear the sale of your home went well and sounds like you are enjoying your time in Mexico! As some others have mentioned, this completely is subjective. There are pros and cons for each avenue. Starting with a smaller property first will allow you less risk, and less exposure if something does come up, or the investment doesn't work out. But a multifamily is the simple principle of economies of scale. Having multiple units under the same roof makes management and maintenance easier.

From your post, it seems you are looking to minimize your loan balance and utilize your capital. Personally, if you are planning on coming back to the Denver area, I would think about another owner-occupied property to take advantage of the rates and low downpayment. It will allow your capital to go further overall. Could get a smaller duplex for yourself and then look at other investment opportunities.


Hi Ben,

Thanks we are having a great one here after a long couple years of remodeling my home for sale and also building a van to travel and live in. 

Yes, I agree on a duplex and my loan balance is minimized for this reason and also I am only approved for 200k as I at the moment do not have an income coming in. I did pass on thw quadplex especially due to location and the cash flow was based on hud which is another area I have no experience in and think it is a bit much for my first investment.  

I am open to Denver and other areas as I am mobile but also feel like this makes things even more complicated for a beginner investor. Just trying to study everyday and learn as much  as possible.