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All Forum Posts by: Michael Moy

Michael Moy has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Quote from @Tim Jacob:

A reduced rate would mean reduced service.  That would lead to people who always go with the cheap getting the bare minimum home inspection, title work, etc.  These are all bad ideas.  The argument was that the buyer will pay their agent directly instead if the seller paying both.  Trying to haggle the buyers agent down to less than 2.5% is ridiculous.  By the time the agent is done working between showings, writing contracts, negotiations and inspections irs weeks of work.  They ain't working for minimum wage and never will.  You get what you pay for not sometimes but all the time.  If you nickel and dime the agent what you really want is to be swindled somewhere in the transaction whether it be the inspection negotiations or title work being done wrong.  There are plenty if things I see lately where I get poor service because done corporation has some free extra service with purchase of something but it would have been better if I just paid for the so called free thing and got what I actually wanted.  That's where this is headed if you think the answer is let's undercut peoples pay more and more.

Sorry, real estate agents don't do home inspections or title work.  If you think adding an inspection contingency should get you 3% you are out of your mind.  Some realtors are worth 3% or more.  Some are worth much less.  I've dealt with both.  Right now they all charge the same where I live and for buyers and sellers doing 1 transaction every ten years, they will never know the difference.  For those of us doing more transactions, we know the difference.
I'm 43 and have a two year daughter.  This is on my mind every day.  I may be in a different situation since I waited so long to have children, however I plan to educate my daughter as much as possible and introduce her to the business as she is growing up.  If she is interested, she can be involved as she grows up.  If not, her college will be paid for if she chooses that route and she will likely be given a house to either live in or rent rooms out to friends to help with her expenses.  If she does well, everything will be left to her.  If I think the inheritance will harm her, it'll be set up in a way I see fit that provides what she needs and nothing more.  It all depends on the kid.  If you see them doing well enough that you believe they can do it on their own, I don't see a problem with giving them a head start unless you think they would value the satisfaction of doing it on their own.  If they are making self destruction choices with money, then obviously limit it.  Long story short.  Nothing should be handed over, allow your children to have a purpose and most will turn out fine.
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Quote from @Jason Cox:

Hard pass on this applicant. Everyone claims their dog is sweet. 

Ha, ain’t that the truth. To echo what Kelly said, I think it would be a good idea to meet the dog to see how it reacts to strangers. But then again, if it is unaggressive towards me, that doesn’t mean it won’t randomly attack someone in the future.

On a side note, I think it’s wacky that a person would rather have a restricted dog than a roof over their head. I took another look at their application and noticed they wrote they’ve been having a hard time finding a landlord who will accept their breed of dog. Maybe get rid of the dog then…It’s a shame because their application is superb. Any landlord (me included) would accept them in a heartbeat. The only thing holding them back is their dog.


Thank you for your input. 


 I have a 120 pound Bernese Mountain dog.  I would never get rid of a dog because a landlord said he's not allowed.  I would find a place where he is allowed, they are out there.  That being said I do not allow dogs at any of my properties unless I'm required to by law.

Post: Feeling overwhelmed and discouraged

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Quote from @Kenneth D.:

I'm 43 and wanted to invest in real estate. I am trying to learn but for whatever reason it feels over my head. What resources exist for absolute beginners? I tried going to a local meetup and felt really out of place. Speakers immediately started using acronyms I had no idea what was going on. Also financially I don't know if this will make sense. Even assuming best case scenario the soonest I can save 25% down is another 2 years away. I spoke with a property management company and she was helpful but I just don't think I can do this.

I got started at 37.  Took about 2 years to save up enough for my first property.  It's well worth the wait.  It goes slow in the beginning, but many more possibilities present themselves as time goes on.   Learn what you can.  Start building a team.  Set up a good foundation and build the confidence for when you can act.  This market is tough for new investors, in two years it may be a more favorable environment.  Set yourself up as best you can and set some goals for the short and long term.

Quote from @Alex Olson:

@Michael Moy Has your downleg closed? If not, just make sure it closes here after the shutdown has passed. It won't last longer than 34 days (longest ever was 34 days and was a complete disaster - I doubt they want to do this again). 


 No it hasn't.  I think I'll be in the clear this time around, but with as often as we face shutdowns it would be nice to know the ramifications.

Hello! I'm a federal employee and am going to be doing a 1031 exchange. I was wondering how a potential government shutdown would affect my ability to get a mortgage. In 2019 Congress passed a law guaranteeing back pay. My concern is how my income would be calculated if there is a temporary stop in pay. I plan on conventional financing, but may pivot to a DSCR if necessary. Thank for any insight!

Post: Investing in an "F" area

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Quote from @Harry Orfanos:

I am looking to become a new first time investor and am working with a great Realtor out in the Cleveland area. He just sent me a deal that checks a lot of boxes (Newly renovated, cash flows according to the 2% rule and the rental calculator, etc). However, the "Crime", "Housing" and "Employment" ratings for this area (Fairfax) all have "F" ratings according to a few sites (areavibes.com, being one).

Anyone have any thoughts on investing in areas like this (especially with an F in employment), despite cash flowing on paper and being newly renovated?

Thanks!

If you're a first time investor, I would say stay far away.  Real estate investing is great, but the problems you will deal with with this property will turn you away from the industry.  Get something more stable, even if you have to wait a bit.
Quote from @Rehj Hoeffner:

I've got these two young kids that moved in and signed a 4 year lease. We had just completely remodeled the unit, new bathrooms, new kitchen cabinets, granite countertop, new microwave and fridge, sinks, faucets, plumbing (left the oven, washer and dryer from previous), new flooring throughout, fresh paint.

It's one thing after another. The disposal kept falling under the sink..I repaired immediately. 

Supposedly the washer went out and the maintenance man came out and said the dryer was on its last leg as well. I replaced them with brand new units. 

There was a smell from the return air that we went round and round about. Finally after 2 service calls and $300 later, it was a stopped up kitchen sink that they didn't tell the A/C guy about the gurgling in the kitchen when the dishwasher ran. 

The ceiling in the garage started sagging and they were afraid it would fall on their car, so I immediately replaced the entire double car garage ceiling.

The knob on the oven popped off and the whole top of the stove shifted somehow and it wouldn't go back on in order to turn off the burner. We had contemplated replacing the oven when we remodeled the house, so I purchased a brand new oven that I let HER pick out!

Then I find out she's running a bakery out of the house. Texas law is a little fuzzy about cottage industries, and the lease isn't specific about running a business from the home. I'm not happy about clients coming to my rent house and increasing my opportunities of liability. 

They never pay their rent on time. One month they were extremely late, past the late payment fee before she told me she had twins and one of them died. I wanted so bad to be compassionate about it saying don't worry, pay when you can, but I knew if I let her get behind, she'd never catch up. 

Then she had ants which she panicked about and called out an exterminator without my knowledge. They turned out to be Carpenter Ants which is my responsibility, but she wanted me to reimburse her for the $200 emergency call, however he did not do a full treatment so I had to have my exterminator come back out for another $300.  

September's rent is still not paid. Last night I got a text that the AC wasn't working. They replaced the filter, but still nothing. I called and made an appointment for today for the maintenance man. She texts 2 hours later and wants to know if they have an emergency number she can call because heat increases the likelihood of SIDS in babies!?!

I told her no, he'll he there in the morning!  AC repair just left and told me the tenants are running a humidifier in the house due to sick baby and the AC unit, which is a complete brand new system right before they moved in 3 years ago, is not made to have a humidifier run and it's freezing up the unit as it is basically working against the AC and clogging the filter.  Cost me $100 service call on a rental unit that runs a very very slim margin of profit to begin with.  I've not turned a profit in the 3 years they've been there. 

What do you do with these types of tenants who pay late and cost you money?  We have 7 rental units on the same street as we live, so they are basically our neighbors, but we strictly don't socialize with any of our tenants. We try to be very good landlords and fix anything that arrises immediately and usually go above and beyond. 

I'm really irritated with them this morning!  Can I legally add this bill to their past due September rent? Ideas or suggestions?


 So the tenants lost one child and you are complaining about them running a humidifier for their other sick child?  I really hope this post is fake.  

Hi! Looking for some advice on using a HELOC that I have for my primary residence to purchase another rental. My question is when do I need to transfer the funds from my HELOC to my bank account during the loan process for a down payment. Should I transfer the funds prior to applying for a loan, or can I wait until closer to closing?

With student loan repayments set to start back up, I was wondering what effects it will have both on the rental and housing markets along with how large of an effect you think it will be. As far as the housing market goes, I think we will see an uptick in the default rate for student loans which normally hovers around 10%. I do not know how DTI was factored for loans that were paused for home buyers, but this could lower the buyer pool if factored differently. As far as the rental market goes, if a subset can't buy that could increase demand. However there will be renters that now have payments starting that may affect their ability to pay the large increases in rent the last couple of years. Do you think there will be a carryover effect in either market and if so to what extent? Are you implementing any strategies to mitigate any possible effects? Thanks for your thoughts!