All Forum Posts by: Michael Smythe
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Post: New and inexperienced

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The obvious answer is to try wholesaling because it requires the least amount of upfront capital and if you can find enough deals you can generate cash for other investments.
Wholesaling though, is NOT easy!
Don't believe the hype. It takes a LOT of grinding work to be successful.
Your other option is to learn enough to convince someone to partner or lend you funds to invest in real estate.
Post: Getting Started Struggles

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Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Benjamin Sulka:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Money or not, honestly, where do you think you are seeing deals laying around these days?
What market are you in?
Looking in the suburbs of metro Detroit (excluding lousy areas, which is a lot of them) and Los Angeles- which is a fantasy land at this point.
Which suburban cities are you looking in? Which ones are "lousy" areas?
Post: Out of State Investor - Remodeling and Home Repairs

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No easy solution:(
Trying to Facetime with a contractor, who often is not tech savvy, is a challenge - especially if you have little construction experience and don't really know what you are looking at or looking for.
Hiring someone means a lot of time searching and complicates timing.
Best idea we have is interviewing several Home Inspectors to try to find one with a builder's license or background.
Post: Do I need a real estate license to manage a property?

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If you have actual ownership in the property, then you can typically legally manage it without a license.
Otherwise, you can try to pursue option #2.
Post: I'm here to learn

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You may want to do a BRRR for your first property. Living in it for 12 months allows you to put as little as 3.5% down on an FHA.
Also, the sooner you buy the faster you'll have the 2 years of rental experience evidence on your tax returns, which will make it easier to realize your 2025 goal of building a house.
Your profile doesn't state what past of Michigan you live in, so can't recommend any cities to buy in.
You might want to follow the "Deep Dive" series we're doing on our BiggerPockets blog about Metro Detroit cities, City of Detroit Neighborhoods and comparing Metro Detroit to other hotspots investors usually consider:
https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/99854-deep-dive-into-metro-detroit-cities-ecorse
Our analysis is a template you can follow for any city, but doubt you'll find this much info for any other market in the US.
So, why would you invest remotely anywhere else?
How can we assist you further?
Post: Searching for Property Managers

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Encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.
To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.
Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.
We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!
Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!
In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.
It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!
Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!
So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.
EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!
This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.
The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!
We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.
We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:
We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.
EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!
P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊
Post: Acquisition of 65+ unit portfolio in the heart of New Bedford, Massachusetts

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Great success!
Post: Major concerns with property manager

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Study the contract and figure out how they violated it and follow the termination procedures.
While doing that, start interviewing replacement PMCs.
Encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.
To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.
Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.
We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!
Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!
In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.
It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!
Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!
So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.
EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!
This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.
The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!
We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.
We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:
We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.
EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!
P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊
Post: Best place for cash flow and appreciation

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You might want to follow the "Deep Dive" series we're doing on our BiggerPockets blog about Metro Detroit cities, City of Detroit Neighborhoods and comparing Metro Detroit to other hotspots investors usually consider:
https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/99854-deep-dive-into-metro-detroit-cities-ecorse
Our analysis is a template you can follow for any city, but doubt you'll find this much info for any other market in the US.
So, why would you invest remotely anywhere else?
How can we assist you further?
Post: when the property manager keeps the late fees

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@Andrew B. the LEASE is between the PMC, acting as legal agent for the owner, and the tenant.
So, there is, in fact, a separate agreement between the PMC and tenant.