Originally posted by "esnuts":
I can see where you are coming from, we both look at things a bit differently. I know that if I were at a job and trying to save money, I would only be saving money to do what it is that I am already doing, but instead waiting.
Your are absolutely correct I am giving up time for money, the key is that I am not giving up my time to do something I wouldnt do anyway. When I wake up in the morning I never have to go to work, I want to go to work because I truly enjoy it, and I happen to like my boss alot, as well as the owner of my company. While my engineering friend are busy at work I am having board meetings with my wife and kid by the pool.
It reminds me of a story about a wall street executive on vacation in Hawaii. While strolling the beach he sees an old coworker basking in the sun and surfing. The coworker had quit his job so that he could move to hawaii and live the simple life in a small low priced home near the beach. The vacationing man did his best to convince his former coworker to come back to work because he could make so much money, and be so happy like he was. All seemed perfect in the vacationers mind until he took a moment to realize that his one weeks vacation was spent doing what his coworker does everyday.
When was the last time you took a vacation, without thinking about the work that you love? How long was the vacation? How about before that, how long was that vacation?
I love RE activities, but I found that I never took vacation and justified it because I was enjoying what I was doing not that I couldn't but didn't want to. I told people that I was retired, because life was bliss as a self employed RE guy. Toward the end of last year, I gained a perspective that I never would have imagined and it has changed my life about work. Not a perspective I could teach either. It is something that is discovered internally.
I went out of town last weekend and got paid for monday anyways... money shows up in my account every 2 weeks whether I like it or not. If I get downsized, I get another job, because there will always be room for good engineers in my field, there will never be a time when there won't be jobs for engineers that any rational person could foresee. I just closed on a pimp deal last thurs that nets me about 8 grand. That is besides my leach off someone elses net worth job that pays for my normal expenses. And also besides my cash flow from properties. All is good. I hope your situation continues to provide you with family and financial satisfaction for years to come. I know that mine will.
I doubt that from here on that my net worth will continue to grow at 50+% annually due to market changes, but I will still continue to make money on cash flow that will be used to pay down mortgages and grow my portfolio that will continue to provide cashflow and extras for me and my family for as long as I live or continue to rent out units. Being a landlord is full on passive income, unlike RE pimp, mortgage guy, rehabber, wholesaler, or many other various forms of "creative" REI which are all self employed jobs.
I may do another rehab as the right deals present themselves, but it is not my goal to do that as a business. Too much time taken away with the pains of employees(contractors)...Almost worse than dealing with tenants sometimes.
BTW, I very much enjoy what I do leaching off someone elses net worth otherwise I would still be doing RE full time.