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All Forum Posts by: Mike Adams

Mike Adams has started 35 posts and replied 205 times.

Originally posted by @James Palassis:
Originally posted by @Mike Adams:
Originally posted by @James Palassis:

I transitioned from buying in the LLC to buying personally to get better financing. Although your lender can say they would not exercise the due-on-sale clause, without something in writing, that's meaningless. The reason I am choosing to hold title personally (with a large umbrella insurance policy) and not transfer over is because, looking through the bank's eyes, if interest rates go up significantly, I would want to force all those paying super low interest rates into higher interest loans.

If you are paying 3%, but in 5 years the going rate is 7%, they could call the note due and you'd be stuck having to refi into a 7% loan (or if you chose to keep holding in the LLC, you'd need to do a commercial loan, which means higher rates and/or shorter terms).

I know "everybody does it," but I just feel better keeping it personally. I have 7 loans with the same lender. Transferring them to the LLC and getting them called would reek havoc for me.

I think you're a bit paranoid dude.

Thanks. Did you have anything of value or substance to add that might help the OP?

1) Not to act paranoid. 

2) Protect himself and his family by placing the property in the LLC

3) Get proper insurance.

4) Keep calm and relax. No need to place the what if scenario's in one's head.
 

Should he be a worry-wort, then leave it in his own name, get proper insurance AND get a large umbrella policy to protect his personal assets. Reason being, for you and him, they are at risk should something happen and insurance either doesn't cover it or it's not enough. With an LLC, the liability is limited to the LLC. In your personal name, there is really no limit.

Common sense here should be used, and neither one of you are using it. Not judging, just giving the direct info so both of you can reconsider your options and protect yourselves.  

Originally posted by @James Palassis:

I transitioned from buying in the LLC to buying personally to get better financing. Although your lender can say they would not exercise the due-on-sale clause, without something in writing, that's meaningless. The reason I am choosing to hold title personally (with a large umbrella insurance policy) and not transfer over is because, looking through the bank's eyes, if interest rates go up significantly, I would want to force all those paying super low interest rates into higher interest loans.

If you are paying 3%, but in 5 years the going rate is 7%, they could call the note due and you'd be stuck having to refi into a 7% loan (or if you chose to keep holding in the LLC, you'd need to do a commercial loan, which means higher rates and/or shorter terms).

I know "everybody does it," but I just feel better keeping it personally. I have 7 loans with the same lender. Transferring them to the LLC and getting them called would reek havoc for me.

I think you're a bit paranoid dude.

Post: East Bay area Re-carpet

Mike AdamsPosted
  • Port Chester, NY
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 156

If there is hardwood under the current carpet, I'd recommend removing the carpet and sanding and/or polishing the wood.  Looks better, cheaper and lasts way longer. If not wood, no problem, switch to LVP.  Either way, both are way cheaper and would last much longer than carpet.

NAL, but put 3 in your name, 3 in your wife's name (if married), 3 in your cousin Billy's name and 3 in your aunt Jemima's name. Prob. solved.

Post: Financing for a 4-plex with under-market rents

Mike AdamsPosted
  • Port Chester, NY
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 156
Originally posted by @Jonathan W.:

@Mike Adams

Just have part of the sale, the the units need to be empty before you close. Screen and find your own tenants. Month to month lease don't have to be renewed.

Wish it were that easy. The seller will not deliver the building vacant.

Post: Financing for a 4-plex with under-market rents

Mike AdamsPosted
  • Port Chester, NY
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 156
Can anyone in New Jersey recommend how to proceed with removing tenants who are month to month, no lease, in New Jersey? It's unfortunate that we have to do this, but I do not believe that any tenant would be able to bring their rent up to market rate anytime soon.  I believe the eviction moratorium ends on August 31st for most tenants in NJ.  The supreme court has already given guidance on how to proceed to process the 57,000 + evictions already in process.

Any tips from the NJ vets here in Passaic County?

Post: Financing for a 4-plex with under-market rents

Mike AdamsPosted
  • Port Chester, NY
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 156
Originally posted by @Darren Sager:

@Mike Adams most investors think they're helping themselves by locking in a tenant for life at particular rate and not increasing the rents.  Here's the perfect scenario which shows how they shoot themselves in the foot by doing so. And yet they still want market value for a property that doesn't come close to producing market value rents.   If you can't get a loan on it, you're left to cash buyers only and they usually want a discount.

 Perhaps, but we like to give the offer, but have no issues ending their leases and having them leave.  Are holdover tenants protected by the moratorium in New Jersey?

Post: Financing for a 4-plex with under-market rents

Mike AdamsPosted
  • Port Chester, NY
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 156
Originally posted by @Stephanie P.:
Originally posted by @Mike Adams:
Looking at a 4-plex that has been owned by the same family since the 80s. Market rate rents are around 2k a month per unit. They are currently charging around 860 a month per unit. The asking price is 700k. Any suggestions on how to make this work? 

Mike,

Where's the property? Some DSCR lenders can go down to .85. There's generally a hit to the rate, but it can be done.

Stephanie

New Jersey. We'll be bringing the rents up to market rate; it's just going to take some time.

Post: Financing for a 4-plex with under-market rents

Mike AdamsPosted
  • Port Chester, NY
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 156

No reno needed, but the rents currently do not cover DSCR.

Cost: 700k

Tax: 11k

Ins: 3.5k

Water: 1.2k


Income: 41280

Tenants would agree to a slight monthly increase, but couldn't afford market rate.

Post: Financing for a 4-plex with under-market rents

Mike AdamsPosted
  • Port Chester, NY
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 156
Looking at a 4-plex that has been owned by the same family since the 80s. Market rate rents are around 2k a month per unit. They are currently charging around 860 a month per unit. The asking price is 700k. Any suggestions on how to make this work?