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All Forum Posts by: Mike Dymski

Mike Dymski has started 61 posts and replied 4820 times.

Post: paying year upfront and discount

Mike Dymski
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. I accepted his proposal and gave a 5% discount Low 50s, engineer, six figure income, 760 credit score, been with the same company for the past 18 years, recently divorced, wants to live downtown, not ready to buy yet. I will use the $16k to go towards recent reno at 3 units and the purchase of a 4-plex. Blessed to have an IRR that is a lot more than 5%.

Post: paying year upfront and discount

Mike Dymski
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Originally posted by @Colleen F.:

No and no discount, its not mine until you live there a year so I have to just keep it in the bank and I am not earning much in interest anyway.  No multiyear leases either for the same reason, they can get out of it but it is tough for me to do so. Tell him put it in the bank and you will give him a small autopay discount if you receive before the 1st  every month. Not to mention income wise you declare income in the year you are paid that income.

Post: paying year upfront and discount

Mike Dymski
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Originally posted by @Al Williamson:

Hmm...

Option 1 - Discount by the amount they could've made if deposited in bank.

Option 2 - Think about if you prepaid your mortgage, reduce your principle. How much interest would you save. Even if you prepaid your mortgage by one month - you could measure the benefit.

If you can manage that then give tenant a percentage of the savings.

 Good feedback, that's exactly what I was thinking.  Still don't know how I feel about it but that would be the logic to follow

Post: paying year upfront and discount

Mike Dymski
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Originally posted by @Michell P.:

Nope, we don't accept prepaid rent unless a current tenant knows they'll be traveling or some such reason.  

What if they violate your lease and you want them gone but they've prepaid for a year?  

It seems like every story I hear where someone accepted prepaid rent for a year, the tenant turns out to be involved in drugs or criminal activity.

Most prepaid rent situations involve a requirement for prepaid rent due to credit issues....not the case here. He's looking for a discount for PIF upfront.

If they violate the lease, I would evict and refund prepaid rent.

Best way to look at this is I will have the same tenant and they will either PIF upfront or just each month.

Thanks for your feedback as these are the pitfalls that are helpful to hear.

Post: paying year upfront and discount

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Originally posted by @Michael Noto:

@Mike Dymski Did you do a background check on them and verify their income? I know the money is enticing but make sure everything checks out before you take their money and give them keys. 

 yes, PM will do all the normal checks

Post: Cash buy or finance

Mike Dymski
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If your goal is to keep going and quit your job, you will need to leverage and preserve capital.

Post: Need Help Analyzing a 56 Unit Deal

Mike Dymski
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Line 61 looks like a parent company management fee that would be eliminated on your ownership. You would need to get the broker and management company to verify.

Where does the 7% cap rate come from? $57 NOI does not get there. If the 7% is calculated by the broker elsewhere, you can reconcile the T12 with that schedule and see where the broker feels the T12 includes items (like the parent company management fee) are not applicable to a buyer. Be careful with that exercise.

IMO, 56 units typically does not need an on site manager and maintenance. You will want to analyze the property with a PM to make that assessment and determine the proper cost structure for all of that.

Post: paying year upfront and discount

Mike Dymski
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Anyone accept a year rent upfront and provide a discount...potential tenant is asking?  If so, what amount of discount do you use?

Post: Profits: BRRR VS Flip profits

Mike Dymski
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Originally posted by @Jon Bachman:

Thanks Everyone,

My thoughts were leaning towards the BRRRR technique for the following reasons. Given the hypothetical situation that I posed, If the buy and hold property yielded $50,000 in equity after renovation or adding value VS the flip which yields $50,000 in profit (pretax of course just to keep it apples to apples), wouldn't it be more beneficial to me to go with the buy and hold as a long term investment where I can still pull the equity (which is equal to the flip's profit) to invest in another property. I see it as killing two birds with one stone, or am I missing something??

Refi will not provide 100% cash out.  Example:

$100 purchase price + $20 reno = $120 total cost + $50 profit = $170 market value

If you sell, you get $170 in cash out

If you refi, you will get $170 market value x 70% (or so, LTV + closing cost) = $119 cash out

Post: Lease Agreement - Late Charge and how much to charge?

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Originally posted by @Alexander Lang:

@Mike Dymski thank you for your input Mike! That looks rock solid and I should probably include an eviction filing clause within my lease as well just so they are aware. Good tips!

@Victor N. thanks for your input Victor! yeah that fly's in MN per MN landlord laws on late fees per NOLO.com "Rent is legally due on the date specified in your lease or rental agreement (usually the first of the month). If you don’t pay rent when it is due, the landlord may begin charging you a late fee. Under Minnesota law, a late fee policy must be agreed to in writing, and may not exceed 8% of the overdue rent payment. Late fee policy must be agreed to in writing, and may not exceed 8% of the overdue rent payment. The "due date" for late fee purposes does not include a date earlier than the usual rent due date, by which date a tenant earns a discount" (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/minnesota-t...) I suppose a grace period is per state and possibly per landlord. I have never had a good experience with allowing it, as then the due date is then the end of the grace date.

@Filipe Pereira Thanks for your insight Filipe! 

@Account Closed

My lease does not identify the 10th of the month as the eviction filing date but my late fee notices do; so, when they get a late fee notice on the 6th, it says eviction filing will occur on the 10th. The alternative is to take the front door off for repairs that take a few days to complete...