Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 141 posts and replied 4068 times.

Post: Is Seattle really that bad for landlords?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Vaughn K.:

As mentioned Seattle is one of the worst places in the whole country, for all the reasons listed and more. In the future it will only get worse, not better. Lord only knows what kind of crazy laws they can cook up regarding real estate. I grew up most of my life in western Washington, and lived in Seattle proper for 15 years... I finally left last year for Idaho. 

EVERYTHING is falling apart there because the place is run by lunatics. As I told people for the last several years I was there, as everything was falling apart, "There's a difference between being liberal, and being bat s**t crazy. These guys have crossed that line." Seattle was plenty liberal when I moved there, but the politicians were still living in reality, and trying to actually make things functional. At this point they're passing bonkers laws, that will obviously have horrible effects in the real world, simply so they can virtue signal. That isn't a good sign for investing there, or anything else. If something cannot work in reality, but you do it anyway to prove how kind hearted you are, all that will do in the long run is destroy everything. There's a reason millions of jobs and people are fleeing from places like CA, WA, NY, etc. I wish the whole world was sunshine, rainbows, and kittens too... But it's not, so you need to work within what is possible and practical. These people don't do that anymore.

A Bill Clinton in the 90s kinda liberal can try to be soft around the edges, and compassionate, and whatever... But at the end of the day they still realized some stuff was not possible, too crazy, etc. The people running these hyper woke areas give zero consideration to real world outcomes. It will not end well. I think this is an already in progress repeat of the 60s/70s when people flooded out of major metros because they went to hell in a hand basket. Time will tell.


I'm more or less libertarian, so line towing conservatives definitely annoy me on some issues too, but in 2021 I'll take those issues over the crazy in progressive areas in a heartbeat. At least conservative areas have functional societies. It seems like hardcore progressive are literally trying to destroy civilization in the places they run.

Any which way, if investing in Seattle were the only option the world, yeah you can probably make it work... But it's not. So why invest in an area where the pricing is already so high there can't be much more meat left on the bone (to equal the returns over the last 7-8 years in percentage terms you'd need 3-4 million dollar 3 bedroom houses in 2030. Does that seem realistic?)... The laws are waaay slanted against you now... The laws will only continue to get worse... At a time when big tech has finally realized they don't need to concentrate their whole workforce in a half dozen cities... I could go on. I don't think SF and Seattle have bright futures without some major changes being made

Invest somewhere that's more favorable, and has more meat on the bone. I wish I'd had more cash to deploy a few years ago as I saw several areas as coming up before most people did. But I'll do fine going forward where I'm at now, so no complaints.

Tell us what you Really think. Lol 

You are spot on.

Post: Is Seattle really that bad for landlords?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Jason Chung:

First in line makes sense. I don't really see that as a concern as long as you specify what makes a qualified tenant without discriminating against one of the protected classes.

Sure, go for it. Tell us how it turns out.

Post: My First Fix-and-Flip!

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Justin Goodin:

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment in Indianapolis.

Purchase price: $80,000
Cash invested: $35,000

This is my first fix-and-flip! I am definitely sticking apartment investing but this should be a fun little project.

- PP $80K
- Rehab $35K
- ARV $175K

Very nice. Congratulations!

Speed is critical at this point. Hurry and get it done. Get it sold before the market turns. I always start advertising in the neighborhood (start with a yard sign on the property) when I'm a month away from completion. It seems to work well and cuts a month's expenses and sometimes I don't even need a realtor, so I save those fees as well.

Post: Dallas vs Phoenix. Which market is better for first rental?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Simon Wexler:

Hi everyone,

I am curious if any of you have advice on which market would be better to buy a second home/rental property. We have family both in Dallas and Phoenix and are looking to purchase our first property in the next few months. We are aiming to rent out full time and not live there. Would definitely appreciate any advice you may have on which area would produce better cash flow and have better tax incentives. Thanks! 

You are going to over pay in Phoenix. There is only a fraction of inventory to what is normal. Dallas has much higher property taxes. Both are landlord friendly. Of the two, I'd probably go with Dallas at this point.

Post: I need to start a foreclosure in South Florida, need advice

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Orlando Glez-Jorge:

I need to start a foreclosure in South Florida, meed advice on how to start

Thanks

Foreclosures need to be done by real estate attorneys or you could do everything right, except you missed something, and have to start all over. That's life in the fast lane for ya. Call a local attorney.

Post: Market Crash Signs, Now compared to 2009

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Andrew Bang:

I find investors talking about the '07-'09 Real estate crash and I remember something very different. I read articles about why it happened and think, I don’t think that was the case at all. What did the crash look like to you?

Here’s what I experienced in Phoenix. What was odd was what buyers/sellers were saying at the time, compared to what the stats show now. We know inventory was at an all time high in 2007 and prices started to decline mid 2007. But in 2007, it was still difficult for a seller to find a property. We had a family move into our neighborhood and they said they had made multiple offers on houses but kept being beat out. They were so grateful to finally be able to buy a house. Early 2008 when we realized the market was really dropping, no one knew when the bottom was, so investors were buying properties, no one was waiting for the bottom because we thought in that moment it was the bottom. So if you had money you bought a house and thought you had just got the best deal of your life. In early 2008 a friend of mine was looking at new builds, couldn’t find one, he was getting beat out, even in a dropping market. Finally got one under contract, national home builder, after agreeing to put down 20k of earnest money, non refundable. 350k purchase price. He closed on it. Most of the hard money/private money dried up by the beginning of 2008. It wasn’t until the summer of 2008 I saw the fear of buying really start, most had lost money in stocks, no private money, no non-qm loans. Money to buy properties had dried up in about 6 months.

March 2008, I spoke with a Keller Williams agent about listing a flip, he would only list if I agreed to drop the price by 10k every two weeks it didn’t sell. At the trustee auction, March 2008 to about June 2008, 10-15 people at the Auction each day. 200-400 properties being foreclosed on each day.

Summer 2008 prices were still dropping, more investors started showing up at the Trustee auction, by the end of 2008, there where over 100 people at auction each day. 2009, It was common to see 500-800 properties foreclose a day. There was one day, on a Tuesday after the weekend and a Monday holiday, that had just over 2000 homes. That was the biggest day I saw. The cheapest prices at the trustee auction were Jan 2009-March 2009.

Even at the bottom, we thought it would still go lower, so there was a fear of buying. Even so, properties still sold in 2008 and 2009 on MLS. I had better returns per flip in 2008, then I did in 2009,'10, or '11.

What was your experience in your market? What are people saying now about the crash that you didn’t see?   What can we learn from it?

All things old become new again. 

"This time things will be different". I went though the "Resolution Trust Corporation Bust" and I heard "This time will be different" for the DOT Com bust. Yep, it was different, but the results were the same. I went through the DOT Com bust and I heard "This time will be different" in 2008. Yep, it was different, but the results were the same. I went through the 2008 bust and I keep hearing "This time will be different" in 2021. Yep, it will be different, but the results will be the same.

So what do you expect, bad money policy keeps getting the same results. 

"Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results"

Post: What is your experience with negotiating loan docs?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Nicholas B.:

I'm a multifamily investor, was an all cash buyer and more recently started financing and refinancing. 1-2 million dollar loan amounts in several different portfolios.100 units total.

The following has been my experience with every loan, every single lender, and I'm wondering if this is normal?

Attorney reviews documents, there are dozens of comments regarding terms that let the lender fairly easily call the loan on a variety of technicalities. There are also terms that waive statute of limitations, extend certain liabilities in perpetuity, as well as various language that is very one sided to the lender. 

The response from the lenders has invariably been that the docs are non-negotiable. The response from the mortgage brokers is that most borrowers don't even try to negotiate the docs. 

My favorite example is a promissory note that had as a first sentence that the lender may call the note due at any time for any reason. Non-negotiable! 

How normal is this?


Don't sign a contract you don't agree with. I would laugh and walk away with "the lender may call the note due at any time, for any reason.



Post: Seller Financing 2nd vs Dropping Price (did not appraise)

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @David Green:

I am sure they are willing to pay the extra 8000, but I don't know if they have it on hand. I think the 20% down (to prevent PMI) was pushing their reserves.

I will of course negotiate the best deal that I can get and was thinking of asking for a promissory note to make up the difference (if they don't have the cash)

Their DTI is based on ALL debt payments that are over 6 mos in duration. The $8,000 will figure into their DTI. You can file a lien for the 2nd against the property and later in life when they sell or refinance, you get paid off. I've done these and have not had a problem. Your escrow company can help you on this.

Post: Pre-Approval / LLC Confusion

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

So I just recently formed an LLC and would like to know how much I can borrow. When getting pre-approved, do you have to do it personally or can you go through your LLC? Or should it be done with private/money lenders and then refinance afterwards? Looking forward hearing the responses. Thank you and really appreciate it!

Lenders will lend on "seasoned" LLCs. That means it needs a credit report just as they would for you. Think of your LLC as a "person". The bank does and the IRS does and the courts do. If you were just born right out of the chute, would a bank lend to you? Probably not. You have to show LLC income as well to get a loan for an LLC.

Best to put one foot in front of the other, get approved personally, do a property or two and get some experience. 

Post: Housing Market crash

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale Austin Tuktoyaktuk
  • Posts 4,205
  • Votes 4,153
Originally posted by @Hassan Gebril:

I bought An investment Multi family for 280k with 3 units 2 years ago and the Zillow price now is 350k. Should i sell it now and use the equity to buy 2 houses instead of one

Income. 3,400

Tax. 5,600

Insurance 1,800

Three family separate utility

 Let's do the math:

Value $350,000

Principal Payoff $270,000

Real Estate Agent Fees (5%) $17,500

Closing Costs $2,500

Net $60,000

Capital Gains Tax 25% $15,000

Net Net $45,000

So, can you buy two houses with $45,000?