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All Forum Posts by: Mark P.

Mark P. has started 3 posts and replied 11 times.

@Alex M.@Cameron Tope@Charlie Fitzgerald

So here's my situation...

My original FHA loan originated in Aug 2011 @ 3.75% - my total payment with P&I, PMI ($172/month), Taxes, and Insurance is $1,365/month. The house was appraised initially at $215k and right now I owe $182k or 85% LTV. I currently rent at $1,500/month which leaves me no room to accrue for any expenses unless I refinance, but it's not worth it.

My recent appraisal has me thinking about selling, but the neighborhood (Pennsport) is appreciating and I would like to ride it out, but my crystal ball is unclear at the moment. My current loan states I need to pay PMI for 60 months or until Aug 2016, but I would still have to pay down the loan to 78% LTV of the $215k appraisal or $14k again.

Any advice on how I could get around it or does it make sense to sell soon?  (To avoid any larger issues which could occur)

Originally posted by @Charlie Fitzgerald:

your costs to refi are $14,000 plus the additional payment increase at the higher rate...that's 7 years of pmi payments and your payment goes down a net of about $119 a month. So you are breakeven on costs in 9.8 years. 1.) You are at roughly 79% ltv now with a 182k balance on a 230k valuation. Your PMI can be removed when you are at or below 78%. You can likely get there with your standard payments as is and another year of 3-5% appreciation, and do a streamline refinance at that point to remove the PMI. That will cost you a heck of a lot less than $14000.

Thanks for the advice.  

Originally posted by @Charlie Fitzgerald:

Leave it alone...

Thanks but what's your reasoning? I'm still paying $2100/year in PMI and I feel like I'm throwing money away.

Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

If you got that quote in the last week...that is not a great rate depending on your credit score of course. You should see something more like 3.6% right now. Assuming a high credit score 

That's because I don't live there.  I have a 805 credit score, but since I live in CA, but the property is in PA I am penalized.  Am I missing something here?

So I am at a crossroads right now and would like some feedback. Currently, I rent a place out with a FHA mortgage t 3.75% owing $182k on the loan for a place I bought in 2011 for $205k. I pay $2100/year in PMI and recently got the house appraised at $230k, which brings my LTV to 80%. I live in Southern California and would like to buy something here, but my rental is appreciating and I'm not sure I want to sell just yet.

I was recently quoted 4.125% to refinance, but I would need to come out of pocket $10k plus closing costs ($4k). 

Does this make sense to refinance to give myself the ability to buy FHA in CA with little money down, then sell when the time is right to pay down the principal? or do I keep going?

Post: Looking for Opinions: Hold or Sell?

Mark P.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Ilya Hvostikov:

Mark - where is you property located? You can always refi out of PMI, which will bring your cash flow substantially higher. I did it myself just a few weeks ago. When I started the process I thought that my house would appraise for 215-220K the appraisal came back at 250K.

 Ilya,

My property is located in Pennsport in South Philly.  That area is on a steady increase in appreciation and I believe will continue to rise over time. 

Post: Looking for Opinions: Hold or Sell?

Mark P.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Joshua Nudell:

@Mark P.,

I think you actually have negative cash flow for this property because there are other considerations besides just the mortgage payment and the taxes (insurance, vacancy, maintenance, capital expenditures, etc).  If you haven't started going into your pocket to keep the expenses paid, I have a feeling you might be soon.  You have had this property since Aug. 2011, but has it been a rental that whole time, or was it your residence at some point?

On the other hand, you purchased a property for $199K, but after closing costs and the upfront PMI fees associated with FHA that would be closer to $210K - $215K which is what you say the property is worth. Which means if you sell now, and pay a realtor and pay closing costs you won't even break even, you will have to come of pocket to close in the area of $15K - $20K.

Is there something I am missing here?  If not, it looks like you bought wrong, and you might be learning an expensive real estate lesson in the near future.

 Josh,

Thanks for your response.  I currently owe $185k on the loan, but the house is appreciating rapidly and the current break even will turn into cash flow in January 2016 with the reassessment of the escrow account.  Houses in this neighborhood go rather quickly to rent or buy and I believe in a few years the property could sell for much more.  I am not really set on the short term, since it's not costing me much to maintain.

Post: Looking for Opinions: Hold or Sell?

Mark P.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Joshua Nudell:

@Mark P.,

I think you actually have negative cash flow for this property because there are other considerations besides just the mortgage payment and the taxes (insurance, vacancy, maintenance, capital expenditures, etc).  If you haven't started going into your pocket to keep the expenses paid, I have a feeling you might be soon.  You have had this property since Aug. 2011, but has it been a rental that whole time, or was it your residence at some point?

On the other hand, you purchased a property for $199K, but after closing costs and the upfront PMI fees associated with FHA that would be closer to $210K - $215K which is what you say the property is worth. Which means if you sell now, and pay a realtor and pay closing costs you won't even break even, you will have to come of pocket to close in the area of $15K - $20K.

Is there something I am missing here?  If not, it looks like you bought wrong, and you might be learning an expensive real estate lesson in the near future.

@Joe Homs

Thanks for your message Joe.  I would like to get into flipping homes, but I feel like my cash wouldn't be enough for OC.  It seems like any "Cheaper"  property get snagged pretty quickly  with all cash offers.  Have you had any good luck with lower end homes?  I would need to start somewhere, but I feel like the markets in Dallas, San Antonio, Nashville are more suited for me beginning as an investor.

Post: Looking for Opinions: Hold or Sell?

Mark P.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

So I purchased a home in Philadelphia, PA in August 2011 for $199k with a FHA loan at 3.75%. The mortgage payment was $1265 initially and now since it's my rental property, I am renting it for $1400/month, but have $0 cash flow due to a property tax increase in 2014, so for 2015, my escrow payment is catching up for 2014. Once 2015 is over, I should make $50-$100/month, but the neighborhood is appreciating rapidly.

All of the vacant lots are being purchased and rehabbed and there are new condos selling for $350-$500k. I think my property is valued at $210-$215k at the moment, so I am trying to ride the appreciation out, but am paying PMI at $200/month. Should I hold the property since I know the appreciation should help over time?

I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks,

Mark