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All Forum Posts by: Nathan Frost

Nathan Frost has started 106 posts and replied 336 times.

Post: Cash Out Refinance at 80%

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @David Pearl:
Quote from @Nathan Frost:
Quote from @Jason Hirko:

@Nathan Frost Is the rehab completed? If we can get an as-is appraisal over $100k after the rehab, we can get it done!


Man if you could get me 80% that would be great. Most only do 75% and I could be out some money when I want to get all my money back aka BRRRR method.

Hi Nathan! Congrats on this deal! Up to 75% of the appraised value when you are finished with the renovation is typically max leverage on a cash out refi. On a rate and term refi up to 80%. On BRRRR’s ideally we get all the cash out if we can. But sometimes even if we leave some cash in the deal the cash on cash returns can look really attractive. David Greene talks a lot about this on a lot of his shows. Happy to discuss further. 

 Makes sense.  I mean it seems smart to do right because even if my payment goes up say $200-300 with the new refinance loan, ideally I am getting another rental that can cashflow more than than the $300 and make up for it.  Therefore more cash flow for 2 properties than for 1.

Post: Need advice on Cash Out Refinance

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Joseph Bui:

Quick math tells me that you can get about 37k (minus closing costs) in a cash out refinance. Is that worth taking the penalty and the closing costs? Depends on what you plan to do with it.


 Plan is to rent it out and buy another rental.

Post: Need advice on Cash Out Refinance

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76

Hey all, would it be wise to cash out of my rental property to help me expand my portfolio.  I think it would but wanted to see what experienced investors suggest.  The numbers on the property I am looking at cashing out on are below.  It does have a prepayment penalty but likely is still worth it.  Any advice is warranted.

Address - TX
Predicted Appraised Value - $145k - 160k
Current Payoff - 76k
Taxes - 2900
Insurance - 1700

Post: Cash out refinance in Texas

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Nathan Frost:
Quote from @Chandler Kimble:

Hi Jake! I'd be happy to assist you with the cash out refi on your TX investment property. Let me know if you'd like me to run a free estimate for you. 

Do you you do cash outs? I am trying to find a cash out refinance for 80% below 8%. Right now I have 75% at 7.5%

 Fannie/Freddie will only go up to 75% on a single family non-owner, so to go up to 80% you have to use non-QM financing which is going to be higher rate then fannie/freddie.  Your loan size will also effect the rate as a lot of the better non-qm financing have loan mins etc.  

 Makes sense still need to get all the money out of the rehab loan so can go find another deal.  Curious what the rates are for 75% vs 80%.  Appraisal is 105k.  All in is 72k.

Post: Cash out refinance in Texas

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Chandler Kimble:

Hi Jake! I'd be happy to assist you with the cash out refi on your TX investment property. Let me know if you'd like me to run a free estimate for you. 

Do you you do cash outs? I am trying to find a cash out refinance for 80% below 8%. Right now I have 75% at 7.5%

Post: 80% LTV Cash Out Refinance

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Hamid Sedaghat:

Hi Melanie,

We have the ability to lend 80% LTV on a Cash Out Refi as long as there is a lease in place and Property Debt to Income (PDTI) Ratio is 90% or less. Unfortunately, we do not lend in Alabama at this time, but we are always looking to expand if there is a market for it. Feel free to list the property details (as-is value, PDTI, credit score approximation, city) and I'll give you an idea if the parameters look realistic relative to our standards!


 Do you you do cash outs? I am trying to find a cash out refinance for 80% below 8%. Right now I have 75% at 7.5%

Post: Cash Out Refinance 80% LTV?

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Jared Rine:

@Mark Nicholson...did you find what you're looking for?  There's not many out there who will do what you're asking for, but they exist. 80 ltv cash out for non owner exists but it comes with certain caveats. And it's also not going to be conforming conventional loan program/terms. 


 Do you you do cash outs? I am trying to find a cash out refinance for 80% below 8%.  Right now I have 75% at 7.5%

Post: CASH OUT REFINANCE

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Corby Goade:

@Manny Martinez- you can, and the HELOC will save you money, I've done it many times. Your net interest and holding costs are much more involved than just your interest rate, you have to take the time-cost of that money into account. You asked for advice, I am offering it, if you want to learn how, feel free to PM me.


 Do you you do cash outs?  I am trying to find a cash out refinance for 80% below 8%.

Post: Cash Out Refinance at 80%

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Jason Hirko:

@Nathan Frost Is the rehab completed? If we can get an as-is appraisal over $100k after the rehab, we can get it done!


Man if you could get me 80% that would be great. Most only do 75% and I could be out some money when I want to get all my money back aka BRRRR method.

Post: Cash Out Refinance at 80%

Nathan FrostPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wichita Falls, TX
  • Posts 338
  • Votes 76
Quote from @Jason Hirko:

@Nathan Frost Is the rehab completed? If we can get an as-is appraisal over $100k after the rehab, we can get it done!


I close next week and the rehab will be completed in May/June. The appraiser has it currently at 68k. Said the repairs could do 100-120k ARV. Just hope we can get a local appraiser. These out of town ones kill deals. I have had some in the past that were 20k off. Said 78k on a duplex and city had it at 100k on their city appraisal.