All Forum Posts by: Nathan M kiefer
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Post: STR Rental Agreement

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Quote from @Joshua Merchant:
@Nathan M kiefer, if you're willing to share, then I will gladly accept. I can send you my email.
Post: STR Rental Agreement

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Quote from @Joshua Merchant:
Is anyone willing to share a copy of their STR Rental agreement? We're pretty new to the space and have our first potential client.
we have seen it happen in our community. A lease allows them eviction, a str license agreement allows you to remove them quickly.
i have one if you'd like it
Post: 80k to Invest and Overwhelmed by Choices. Help!

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If you know you can get 2k per month in a fixed up adu on average pull that trigger.
otuerwise not sure what else you are going to put 70k into and get a consistent 2k per month return at this current market with where you are.
Post: Review my AirBNB listing (thanks in advance!)

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Quote from @Dale Bertrand:
Please review my listing!
We rent a four-bedroom house in Harwich, MA, as an STR. The house is on Cape Cod, a beach community that is wildly popular in July/August. We are always fully booked for around $600 per night in July/August.
The problem is: We need more bookings in the spring and fall when demand is lower. I'm open to changing the listing, updating our pricing, adding amenities, or anything else that would lead to more spring and fall bookings.
We allow pets, so that's been a big draw for this house. The house isn't exactly walkable to the beach. When I walk to the beach, it's about a mile away. However, there are restaurants, bars, family activities (mini-golf, go-carts, etc.), and a wonderful supermarket that is close by and walkable (2-3 blocks away).
The reviews are excellent, and we are currently superhosts. We expect to lose superhost status in April because we had to cancel a booking (my mistake).
Thank you in advance for your feedback on my listing...
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/614622614795146757
Also, the VRBO/AirBnB ranking stats are concerning. I think conversion is low because most people are looking for a weekend stay in July/August, but we have a 7-night minimum stay in July/August, so they bounce off our listing page (just a guess). We get 1 or 2 inquiries per day for weekend stays in July/August that we can't accommodate.


- Dale
Not a big fan of VRBO but is location specific. Our stats suck as well, we have 3 day minimum and we have no problem filling up in busy season, more and more people want the freedom to pick their vacation durations.
other than that it looks great to me except doesn't really show outside until you start clicking through the listing. It always feels to me like an apartment view when you start with interiors, just my opinion.
your house is awesome though and looks like you take great care of it and the guests
Post: Anyone work with Simm Capital Group?

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Quote from @Paul B Fleming:
Looking at an offer for Affordable housing portfolio, offering 10% dividends and 65% profit splits.
Has anyone worked with Simm Capital group and had any success?
Thank you Paul
What is the owners name not John is it??
Post: **Off-Market Rental Portfolio For Sale** - 12 Properties - 21 Units $20k monthly rent

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Quote from @Ryan Miersma:
For those interested, I'll connect with you individually in the next couple of weeks.
im working a couple other deals and wanted to see if this is worth it
Post: Analysis Paralysis on Personal Use + STR Vacation Home

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Quote from @Dina Schmid:
Quote from @Nathan M kiefer:
That being said, we went down the same journey and decided our hang-up was the debt- we couldn't fathom the property "just paying the bills".
That is one of my biggest issues for sure. There was a time in which I was looking for something we could pay cash for. Won't work for this one due to looking (slightly) outside of my original price range and the amount of upfront work needed. My husband was thinking we could take the mortgage interest deduction (since we don't have a mortgage on our primary residence), but now you have me wanting to run the numbers with 75% or more down.
Sometimes just have to see it from a different lens- it makes a difference once you get over putting that kind of cash in. As long as you buy right, its kind of liberating. I also find it makes me look at properties differently.
I don't know why it is that way but you look a little harder when you put that kind of cash in vs. getting that preapproval and going shopping, at least that's the way it was for us. Its like a real estate built in gut check!
Post: Analysis Paralysis on Personal Use + STR Vacation Home

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Quote from @Dina Schmid:
First I do want to say that I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and the wealth of knowledge I have found here. Of course, it's just added to my analysis paralysis!
How did you get over that and pull the trigger - or know that it's best to walk away? Is there any advice you'd give me on our particular situation:
Husband and I are 50-something "millionaire next door" types with no debts and significant savings. As my husband gets closer to retirement, his dream of owning a cabin in the woods gets stronger. We've enjoyed checking out different areas within ~2.5 hours from our home on the outskirts of Cincinnati and recently saw something near the Red River Gorge that I really like and can see myself going to frequently. It is priced a bit higher than what I wanted but would really lend itself to a more upscale couples retreat with some improvements. While I would rent it out as much as possible, husband would want us to block out 2-5 days/month there.
We're both struggling with crunching the numbers. We would need to hire a management company (found one we like, they take 30% but allow owners up to 60 days/year occupancy). In addition to furnishings, t will need work (such as new countertops) to meet my vision for upscale couples retreat. We go back and forth on how much we would put down and how much to set aside to get it up and running as a STR as quickly as possible. That leads to going back and forth on whether it's worth it given the upfront investment and the data we're finding on occupancy rates, cash flow, etc. vary from losing $5K/year to making over $10K/year. Very frustrating.
(Also assuming we wouldn't do an LLC to purchase since it wouldn't fully be a business. I own my own business/LLC and am open to changing that structure for tax purposes, such as putting it under an S- or C-Corp if it would help with this situation.)
I appreciate any and all thoughts on this matter as I can't seem to get out of my own head on this!
The only way to get past the paralysis is to pull the trigger.
That being said, we went down the same journey and decided our hang-up was the debt- we couldn't fathom the property "just paying the bills".
A lot of people will tell you, and they are right, when you do a small down payment, finance, and str the house you should be happy to break even and have a vacation house that someone is paying for you. That's one of many options.
Once we figured out that the issue for us was more the lack of cash flow and less about the investment(we knew what we were going to spend either way) we paid 90% cash and that solved that problem.
Your either going to beat your head on the wall because of the debt and stress about it making money or stress that you paid all or a substantial amount of your cash when you go all in. i understand this will be unpopular for a lot of BP viewpoints but it worked for us, we own 2 STR that we owe nothing on now and purchased both for 670k and have a real value of $1.2-1.3mm. it requires you to put a lot of your cash back to your reserves but you have it all to do it with.
Personally we believe in ourselves and our ability to pick high producing properties(that is the very first and foremost consideration) then we went all in and never looked back, 2 years later bought our second STR with mostly cash.
When bookings are slow, we don't freak out, we go visit, when its jammed pack in the busy season we enjoy the cash return for the cash we put in. Eventually it all comes back, its a matter if you want to pay the bank or pay yourself- both hurt in their own ways but we bet on ourselves every time.
I can say a great way is to share your specific property when you are ready and there are a lot of great advice on what a good property can do.
In any case, good luck, hopefully you execute a plan!
Post: **Off-Market Rental Portfolio For Sale** - 12 Properties - 21 Units $20k monthly rent

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Quote from @Ryan Miersma:
Selling my Southwest Michigan rental portfolio of 12 properties (21 units) located in the Kalamazoo/Battle Creek and surrounding areas. Monthly gross rents are currently $20k. Price is 2.2M.
Hey Ryan,
I have 20 houses, in battle creek, can i get some more information please
Post: Wondering how to minimize taxes owed to IRS from rental properties

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Quote from @Brian Hunsaker:
We have 3 rentals, and Turbotax says we made about $27k off the 3 combined last year, so I ended up having to pay the IRS $8k. Currently the tenants pay us directly to our bank accounts.
Would we owe less if we set up an LLC (s corp?) and had the renters pay the LLC? Open to any ideas.
We live in Texas but all the rentals are in Washington state, if that matters.
i did a 1079 on a kubota for 35k one year, cost me $300 a month- wit the 8k that pays 2 1/2 years of payments and use te 8k as a down instead of giving to the govt.
doesnt work everytime but if you are continuing to buy and hold its completely doable.