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All Forum Posts by: Owen Rosen

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Post: Landlord Insurance Recommendations

Owen Rosen
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Quote from @Greg M.:
Quote from @Owen Rosen:
Quote from @Greg M.:

Kind of. Just go online to the major carrier sites and quote a LANDLORD policy. Choose the coverages that are important to you and your risk level.

Obviously the dwelling gets covered, but do you want ordnance/law coverage (brings things like electrical systems up to date if need be replaced due to claim), loss of use (covers your lost rent after a claim), replacement cost vs actual cash value, workers comp, and personal liability. And of course the deductible you're willing to have.


 I strongly disagree with this strategy.  It's not really even a strategy since most companies that offer direct online sales don't really offer landlord policies as I pointed out.  Also, you listed workers comp in the list of coverages?  Huh?

I don't know what percentage of companies offer it online, but I had no issue with getting quotes online.

As for W/C coverage, yes, it is offered as part of HO3 & HO6 policies. It covers hired labor like a housekeeper or gardener who may not have coverage. 

 HO-3 is a type of homeowners policy - owner occupied.

Some property policies might offer LIMITED coverage for domestic workers but that is in no way workers compensation.

What large insurance companies are currently offering landlord insurance quotes fully online?

Post: Landlord Insurance Recommendations

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Quote from @Greg M.:

Kind of. Just go online to the major carrier sites and quote a LANDLORD policy. Choose the coverages that are important to you and your risk level.

Obviously the dwelling gets covered, but do you want ordnance/law coverage (brings things like electrical systems up to date if need be replaced due to claim), loss of use (covers your lost rent after a claim), replacement cost vs actual cash value, workers comp, and personal liability. And of course the deductible you're willing to have.


 I strongly disagree with this strategy.  It's not really even a strategy since most companies that offer direct online sales don't really offer landlord policies as I pointed out.  Also, you listed workers comp in the list of coverages?  Huh?

If you try to DIY you're likely to be upset if you ever need the insurance.  Same with working with a call center with poorly trained, underpaid, overworked, agents.

Post: Landlord Insurance Recommendations

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Quote from @Sean Petrash:

This is my first property with tenants. It's a duplex in a Class C-D neighborhood. Property value $150k give or take. Gotta start somewhere! Each side should rent for $1k/mo. 
Do I just get a general liability/homeowners insurance policy from one of the big companies like geico or progressive? 

Thanks!


 GEICO does not have their own landlord insurance product. Progressive recently stopped offering landlord policies through ASI which was the property insurance company they purchased and offer products through.  They do have a small business product that can work for 1-4 unit dwellings in some states.

Overall, the strategy of going to one of the "big companies" and working with a call center is not one I'd recommend.  Do you really want to deal with an 800-number call center to insure a valuable asset?  Frankly, do you want to work with a call center for anything?  They're miserable.

Post: Insurance broker for rental properties

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Sent a DM

rentalpropertyinsurancequote.com

Post: Question on Landlord insurance

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What do you mean by not standard?

Post: Texas Multifamily Commercial Insurance Quotes

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Post: Driveway Repair Required?

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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Shannon S. send the pics to your insurance agent and ask if they would cover a personal injury lawsuit caused by the the driveway condition.

An insurance agent can't make this call and it's not the right question to ask.

The question is whether or not the driveway is a safety hazard.  It appears to be one.  The tenant pointed it out on top of your duties as the property owner.  You now have an internet post acknowledging you were aware of the issue.

So, would the insurance company cover you considering you had a maintenance issue that you were aware of and chose not to fix?  They probably would but you're giving them reasons to make things more difficult.

Just patch the driveway and make it safe.

Post: Title and Insurance referral fee?

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Quote from @Carlton Samuels:

I just became a new commercial agent, and I have a couple of questions.  My brother is a title officer and a friend of mine is an independent insurance agent.  Can I refer them to my commercial clients and collect a fee?  I know I cannot do it for residential (RESPA), but I wasn't sure about commercial buildings.  This is for Central New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

Thank you.


 On the insurance side typically there is a maximum (usually very nominal) amount that can be paid to anyone that isn't licensed.  Residential/commercial not a factor.

Post: Do landlords need to classify vehicles used for the rentals as business use?

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Quote from @Corey G.:
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Quote from @Corey G.:

I've been a property owner for about 13 years now. I just bought a new cargo van and I previously had a pickup truck I replaced. My pickup was under my insurance for personal use but when I added the cargo van, I put it down for business use. After talking this over with some insurance brokers, I'm not sure it needs to be classified as business use. To clarify, my properties are not currently in LLCs or any other structures, just solely in my name. I do not have a business license and my rental income is considered passive. Since I own these properties (and the home I live in), I was explained by the broker that when I visit my properties, even to do repairs or haul appliances, I'm essentially just transporting tools/appliances from one of my properties to another one of my properties (not a business). It's like I'm working on my own personal house, or hauling appliances from home depot to my house and neither of those examples would be business use. Essentially, because my van is not registered to business license or LLC, and the income is not active business income, then the vehicle could be classified as personal use. The logic makes sense to me but what does everybody think of this and what do you have your insurance use as? Additionally, I have a car that I sometime use to show the properties & sign the leases. I don't really consider this business use either but should I?


Are you referring to personal auto insurance vs. commercial auto insurance or a business usage classification on a personal auto insurance policy. These are different things.

personal auto insurance business use classification


 Do you use the van for anything other than visiting your properties?

It's probably in a gray area.  That said, the pricing difference for business use on a personal lines policy vs. commuting or pleasure usage is likely nominal.

Post: Chicago rental, property insurance.

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Quote from @Jesus Santoyo:
Quote from @Brie Schmidt:

@Wen Y. - I use the replacement cost insurance. My agent has gotten me much lower rates than State Farm / Allstate. Feel free to PM me and I iwll send his info

@brie 

@Brie Schmidt

I am also looking for an insurance company for a 3 flat in the SW side are you able to DM me any recommendations, please.

Happy to help in Chicago. See our profile for easy quote requests. 
The information from a year ago let alone seven is worthless. The market is changing rapidly still.